no denying thats cool and all but, there is a big difference between ivan stewart and a highschool student wanting to race. if i had a couple hundred thousand dollars for r&d and a factory backed race team with engineers, i could make a geo metro engine push out a few hundred horse power too. fact of the matter is though, i dont think the OP has all that at his disposal. also in the last 6 years that ive been going to races and been into the offroad desert racing scene, i haven't seen or heard of one mom and pop race team run a 3.0. many have ran a 22r/re and even more a 3.4. and now some are stepping up to the new 4.0. there must be a least one reason for that, and im guessing its either the hp or the reliability. either way, im done here.

OP, good luck with racing. hope to see you in the desert some time.

 

if your still running the stock intake manifold, plenum, and throttle body than you dont need a MAF setup. the stock AFM supplies more than enough air. i forgot who posted all the info but it was on yotatech.

if you want more power. punch out the block 30 over. throw some headers and exhaust and that is it.

 

I thought we'd already moved past MAF? ... yep we have, about 4 hours ago. Why are you rehashing the past?

If you knew anything substantial about fuel control, you would know the benefits of a well tuned MAF setup, and it's not all about supplying enough air.
And you wouldn't claim something then say "I forgot who posted it". You would back it up with proof.

I'll leave it at that.

I changed my mind. Here's a project for you: 82 Honda CX500 Turbo. Best configuration for air/fuel control using the 3 MAP sensors it comes with. (If I included ignition, you be driven buck nutty.)

 

ok lets get this straight. just cause im a highschool student doesnt mean that i cant do it. yea i wont have a powerful engine like ivans but i have plenty of people backing me up, plus im working closely with people who built engines for Top Fuel Dragsters. were pretty much outlining how everything is going to go and how were going to do it. obviously i dont have the power that ivan has, but i know that my engine is going to be pretty darn close to it. ive pretty much gone through everything from how the heads to the ignition. im trying to figure out small things and trying to see if anyone has any experience with other equipment. pretty much im just open to ideas and putting it on the board. yeah im not running a 3.4 or even a 4.0 but i know that with the amount of knowledge that my team is putting into this build, i can keep up with pretty much anything. a lot of the stuff thats going on there is stuff that i built from scratch. so honestly, i actually have a lot at my disposal! @toyotech559 my engine wont be anything close to stock. everything is going to be ported and polished, parts enlarged and oversized. were basically getting as much power as we can from this engine. i will also be running 109 octane. and the reason i post here is because i know people on this forum have experience with every part of off roading and everyone has good ideas and im trying to see which is the best way to go, then the build begins. so im not just buying random stuff and putting it on there, im researching and asking around with whats a good way to go. if you guys are willing to help me, then please do!

 

Frankly, I couldn't give a rat's arse if you work closely with TF dragster engine builders. The engines they build have little to no relavance to what you're asking about. An engine made to run wide open throttle for 1/4 mile wouldn't last a mile on a circle track much less in the desert. I'll bet few if any of those pro's have experience with the 3VZE; am I wrong?

And for the record, when you say "i know that with the amount of knowledge that my team is putting into this build, i can keep up with pretty much anything" you really mean that you HOPE you can convince them to help. I mean really, you have a team? More accurately, you're an intern for a team. You're there to look, learn, and run around when they ask.

Honestly, you need to keep your feet firmly planted in reality. There's nothing wrong with reaching at goals, but things that work for top fuel dragsters aren't going to help you much with the 'yota V6. I may give you a pass if you'd have said they run NASCAR, or BUSCH or something like that where endurance matters, but no, you went for dragsters where endurance is measured in seconds, not miles.

Having said all that, I'll give you one suggestion: when you form thoughts, and translate those to written text, use paragraphs. This is highly important with regards to conveying your ideas to others. If you were on my team and sent me an email like what you wrote above, you would be gone.

Having personally grown up in the public school system of California, I know what the curricula are. 6th grade students are taught paragraphs.

Honestly, I do not want to come down on you in such a hard way, but ... you appear ambitious, and even determined, and I would normally condone such. Yet, you're also cocky and dismissive towards those who would otherwise help you were you to approach the situation differently.

 

Actually you are wrong, they've worked on plenty of 3vz and their tow truck is a 93 tacoma 3vze, and they've pretty much got it running perfectly and with lots of power.

sorry about not being able to do paragraphs because i usually go on here on my phone, so its a little bit hard to be even able to reread the reply to make sure you've covered everything.

Actually, I'm not an intern for a team, i started my own company about a year ago and from there i said why not put the stuff i sell to the test. my company is pretty small and private for now due to the fact the i work out of my school's shop.

One of my friends dads used to be involved with NHRA as a mechanic and i basically told him my plan, and he pretty much said that it was a good way to go, but that we were going to have to put a lot of wrench time and custom fab work into it. The nice thing about it, is like you said, dragsters are measure at WOT and for only a 1/4 mile, but since he was on a race team during his NHRA time, he met a lot of people in many other parts of the industry for example NASCAR and F1. He's contacted them and they are also willing to help, teach, and mentor me. they also will allow me to use their equipment for all my engine work.

The only reason i got like that is because i absolutely dislike it when people tell me to do the swap, or that its a waste of time, or whatnot just to try to bring me down. i just pretty much wanted to get it out there that I'm not just some kid who woke up one day saying hey i want to race. I've been in the auto industry since i was 10, did my first engine rebuild when i was 12, and got behind a race car when i was 15. Ever since then, I've been racing cars, but for me its not about just bolt on parts or who's the most aerodynamic car on the track, its all about being able to built parts right, and driving skills. i wasn't trying to sound cocky or anything, that's why i post here, because people here are polite and helpful unlike other forums I've been on.

I'm just trying to see if there's different ways i can approach a problem or if there's something i should be aware of. I want to do this right the first time so that i could help others with their 3vz. that's ultimately my goal, so that's why i pretty much ask others on here for their experience so that i can learn from their mistakes.

So im sorry if you were offended, that wasn't was i was hoping for. So if you're willing to give me ideas, go for it, if not then just don't put me down or tell me to do the swap or that my engine is a turd or what not.

Thanks, Alex

 

Now I have to laugh: the Tacoma was a 94.5+ model, not a 93.

And what swap did I tell you to do?

And if you like ideas:
Can one EFI box make "more power" than another, all else being equal?

SO there you go. Some thoughts about low buck EMS can beat top shelf... a little muckraking from AEM against Megasquirt, and ....

Isn't that what you were asking?

 

Read the thread I linked.
People are breaking crankshafts because of the strain put on them by magnetos.

Just saying, if you were in "that" circle, you'd know about it.

 

And now I'm confused about how that is going to help your truck run better.