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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 11:47 AM
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Hooking up RIDING LIGHTS. Help please

Not quite sure how to do this, so a little help please. As you can see in the dirgram, there are 2 wires comming out from the back of the lights. One of the wires show a ring around it. I'm thinking this is the groung, Is this correct? Also I think I can hook them up to any ground. Am I correct in thinking this? As you can see, it is showing a wire going to the (+) on the battery, but nothing to the (-) side, do I need to do this? Also, can the 2 grounds comming from the lights be connected together, or do I need to serprate them? Any help would be great.

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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 11:56 AM
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Yes, the ring is on the ground wire. You just need to run this to a spot on the frame or body. Metal. Sand the paint off if necessary, drill and use a self-tapping screw and a ideally a star washer. Or use an existing bolt somewhere. They can be run to the same spot and held down by the same screw/bolt.

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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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The wire with a ring connector on it should go to ground. It is usually black.

Any clean frame spot on the car is ground. All the frame, solid black wires, and negative battery terminal is connected. Any will work. As long as they bolt to the frame.
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by GV27
Yes, the ring is on the ground wire. You just need to run this to a spot on the frame or body. Sand the paint off if necessary, drill and use a self-tapping screw and a ideally a star washer. Or use an existing bolt somewhere.
Can I hook uo the 2 grounds to the same screw?
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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BTW, that's kind of a sketchy wiring setup - you should put a fuse between the battery and the switch - as close to the battery as possible. Don't want to burn your truck down, ya know!

yes - you can hook the grounds to the same screw.
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 12:22 PM
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SO, I donot need to hook a groung to the (-) side of the battery right?
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 12:23 PM
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I'd recommend a 'lighted' switch. That one has no provisions for a light. It helps you know if your lights are on during the day.

Get one with three posts on the back. The extra post is for a wire to ground. They're cheap, and if you're going through the trouble, might as well..
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by keithguts
SO, I donot need to hook a groung to the (-) side of the battery right?
Correct, The negative post is connected to chassis, and anything connected to the chassis that's metal. You can use bumper mounting points to hook the ground loops to.

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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleBob
Correct, The negative post is connected to chassis, and anything connected to the chassis that's metal. You can use bumper mounting points to hook the ground loops to.
OK that sounds good. They are going on my brush gard, so I guess I can hook up the ground to the brush gard right, as this is hooked to my chassis.
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by GV27
BTW, that's kind of a sketchy wiring setup - you should put a fuse between the battery and the switch - as close to the battery as possible. Don't want to burn your truck down, ya know!

yes - you can hook the grounds to the same screw.
there is an inline fuse in the schematic between the battery and switch,,the weird looking rectangle+cone dealie. what is the output of the lights? you dont see to many kits without a relay
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Godzilla
there is an inline fuse in the schematic between the battery and switch,,the weird looking rectangle+cone dealie. what is the output of the lights? you dont see to many kits without a relay
I was thinking the same about not seeing a relay in there. Worth the time and a few extra $ to do it right. Wired that way whatever amps those lights draw is running thru that switch too. I have 100w aircraft lights on my 4runner (4 front and 4 rear). they are run thru relays for each pair. The only thing the switch does is power the relay, all of aprox. 3amp draw on the switch.
I use a napa relay 192D and the plug for it. (I can't remember the pt. # off hand) But they can look it up np. I also use 10ga wire for all of it except from the relay to the switch.
Here is how they are wired.

Relay is from NAPA part number 192D

Terminal #30 goes to fuse and then the pos terminal of the battery.
Terminal #85 goes to the neg terminal of the battery.
Terminal #87 goes to your light.
Terminal #87a doesn't get anything unless you are drawing less tan 30 amps.
Terminal #86 goes to your switch.

To me it's worth the extra for the relays and wire.
Good luck
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 01:49 PM
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I was thinking the same about not seeing a relay in there. Worth the time and a few extra $ to do it right. Wired that way whatever amps those lights draw is running thru that switch too. I have 100w aircraft lights on my 4runner (4 front and 4 rear). they are run thru relays for each pair. The only thing the switch does is power the relay, all of aprox. 3amp draw on the switch.
I use a napa relay 192D and the plug for it. (I can't remember the pt. # off hand) But they can look it up np. I also use 10ga wire for all of it except from the relay to the switch.
Here is how they are wired.

Relay is from NAPA part number 192D

Terminal #30 goes to fuse and then the pos terminal of the battery.
Terminal #85 goes to the neg terminal of the battery.
Terminal #87 goes to your light.
Terminal #87a doesn't get anything unless you are drawing less tan 30 amps.
Terminal #86 goes to your switch.

To me it's worth the extra for the relays and wire.
Good luck
i can draw you a diagram for this if it's too confusing.

and yes i would use a relay, and not the direct switch to the battery, because then it is possible 1) to melt the switch and 2) leave your lights on with the ignition off.
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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yeah thats the simplest wiring of lights. it will work just fine assuming the switch can handle all that current draw. that would be my concern but if it came with the lights, it should be ok. a relay would be the safest however
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by gonzo

Terminal #30 goes to fuse and then the pos terminal of the battery.
Terminal #85 goes to the neg terminal of the battery.
Terminal #87 goes to your light.
Terminal #87a doesn't get anything unless you are drawing less tan 30 amps.
Terminal #86 goes to your switch.
That is not the purpose of Terminal # 87A. #87A stays closed until the control on the relay , #85 and #86, are energized. Then #87 becomes the closed circuit. It has nothing to do with Amps. The Amp rating for a relay is for all load terminals. Not a specfic one.



For Current Draw

Power(watts) = Voltage X Current(Amps)

12V/Power(Watts) = Current(Amps)

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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 02:10 PM
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# 87a Has NOTHING to it on mine.
I got those instruction along time ago from somehwere and thats how my lights have been wired for several years now. Still the same switches and relays that I started with.
I just tape up the #87A wire and forget about it
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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i would go buy a roll of 16ga wire and some connectors a relay and a switch
http://www.ultimateyota.com/index.ph...26&topic=387.0
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Elton
i would go buy a roll of 16ga wire and some connectors a relay and a switch
http://www.ultimateyota.com/index.ph...26&topic=387.0
Elton, the kit came with wire as well as a switch. It says on the switch that it is 10amp, 250 volts. Not quite sure what the wire is tho. Also how do you hook in a relay if I want to do this.
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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Relay not necessary. It will work.


However, hooking the switch up to 'The Clapper' would be cool. That way, when you're in the woods, you can "CLAP-ON" your lights to locate your truck in the dark.
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleBob
Relay not necessary. It will work.


However, hooking the switch up to 'The Clapper' would be cool. That way, when you're in the woods, you can "CLAP-ON" your lights to locate your truck in the dark.
Sounds very cool if it can be done...........
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by keithguts
Also how do you hook in a relay if I want to do this.
http://www.4runners.org/image/hella5...auxfusebox.jpg
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