zombi

I am debating on getting a pace setter header. I am also getting a cold air kit for the air filter. Will this eliminate the hose from the airbox to the resonator, and can I eliminate the resonator and reed valve if I install the header? Will the check engine light come on?

InternetRoadkill

Pace Setter are not the best headers out there. The only thing they have going for them is that they are cheap. But there is a reason for that. The quality is not very good.

The reasonator is rather harmless. It doesn't really do much one way or the other to engine performance. Removing it shouldn't cause the CEL to come on. The better brand of header kits have models which are smog legal and allow you to keep the smog control stuff in place.

tc

I had a Pacesetter on my last Toyota and fought exhaust leaks constantly at the head flange.

Sonofmayhem

Its called rtv works wonders on leaks. i would like to know too, i have a header sitting in my garage that i wanna put on soon.

tc

NO RTV will hold up to exhaust temps. I know cuz I tried them ALL.

zombi

Thanks for the reply. I am looking at the pacesetter because of the price. I am not to concerned about the emissions, I'd like to do away with every thing related. I have $400 total invested in the 4runner and am trying to keep it as budgeted as possible.
Will I notice any change in MPG or HP? I am planning a flowmaster muffler because I have one I'm not using.
Thanks, Dan

FOCUSHERE

i work on the hh60 (blackhawk) and rtv works great on our eng compartments lol

Elton

i used a vavle cover filter on my resonator and made a custom intake tube for my k&n fipk and anlong with a lce header and 2-1/4 exhaust all the way back that 22re made some good power for haveing 166k on a stock motor.... i bet adding a cam and overesize vavles would of made that 22re pretty quick.......a header was the best $330 bucks i ever spent on my truck so i would say a header is the best upgrade on a 22re

zombi

Does the resonator need to be there if your running a cold air intake?
I took off my resanator and plugged it by the AS Reed valve. Is this bad? does it need to breath, or is it OK plugged? I did this because looking at a diagram, it goes from the air box to the resonator to the AS Reed valve to the exhaust manifold. I want to elimate everything completely and run a header with no emmissions. I assume I'll have to plug the vaccum lie off the reed valve to the VSV.
I am not ignorant when it comes to engines, but new to toyota engines.
Is what I'm doing OK, will it harm anything or effect the performance & or gas milage in a good way?

Elton

just do what i did and get a vavle cover breather filter less than $5 bucks

taikowaza

go with downey or thorley or NWOR.
pacesetter's flanges are thin.
you will regret it later.

Elton

well if you want to deal with nwor go for it

InternetRoadkill

The only thing that I can think of that might happen if you remove the resonator is that the unburned hydrocarbon emissions will likely go up. The cat may not like that.

Removing all the smog gear may cause problems for the computer -- especially the EGR system.

Avoid NWOR. The 4wd message boards are full of horror stories about those guys.

Elton

i think lce headers are the best for 22res i dont like how doweney uses clamps for there headers and also the cost

trythis

If your tryin to go cheap, just use the nicely designed stock manifold and use 2" tubes to the cat then 2.25 tubes out the back. THats what I have read as best bang for the buck improvement. Engine Builder (EB) has posted that many many times, and 4x4wire.com (not online fora week now) had a write up by EB on the engine. He has said that the headers by all of the above mentioned were tested in comparison to the stock manifold and the differences were not worth the cost. In some cases the stock was better.
If you havent noticed, polar ices caps are melting and polar bears are going to be extinct ,among many other nasty things we are doing to ourselves. Perhaps you could leave that emmissions stuff where it is. Its probably cheaper to use it if it still works and some of us critters would like you to not add more polution.
BTW, disableing the EGR system seems to screw things, like gas mileage.

You might think about getting a 268 cam, as those are popular upgrades, since you're looking into things.

zombi

Thats the thing, my stock manifold is cracked. Thats why I'm looking at headers.

trythis

A-ha! Are you considering a used one, stock? Wouldnt be as fun, but cheaper.