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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 09:16 AM
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First engine rebuild

Hi, Im new to the forums and a friend practicly gave me his 95 4runner, I am a toyota guy so I couldnt turn it down. It has a spun rod bearing so I decided it would be my first engine rebuild. I need a little help with what needs to be sent to the machine shop. I do not want to spend unnecessary money at the shop so I figued ask you guys. The motor is a 95 3vze, I have disassembled most of the engine (still have one head to take apart). The crank is marred in one spot, and the corresponding rod is shot. I have a new toyota rod to replace it, I just dont know what they can do with the crank. Here is the list of what I THINK needs to be done at the maching shop.

Heads:
resurface the heads
check valves
replace valve stems

Block:
resurface
hone/bore
rods checked
fix/grind crank

Like I said this is my first rebuild so any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 09:24 AM
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You've pretty much got all you need to send to the machine shop.
If your not going to replace them, then send the pistons along to.

They should be able to fix whatever is wrong with the crank.

Take some pics of what you have so far for us to see
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 09:45 AM
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give your machine shop the pistons and rings when they bore it out. My advise is to let the machine shop look at the block and determine if it has to get bored or just honed before ordering new pistons and rings if your gonna do so. Then get the pistons and rings to the machine shop to bore/hone and set your ring gap. If not then they will still might need the old pistons and new rings.
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 09:54 AM
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Thats what I was planning on doing, I am planning on buying the master rebuild kit from engnblder. Once they tell me if the block needs to be bored or just honed I will order the kit.
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 10:11 AM
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 10:13 AM
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What is the best way to take out the valve stem seals???
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 10:22 AM
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What is the best way to take out the valve stem seals???
have the machine shop do it. Or in my case order a new assembled head from EB. lol. but don't think they have em for the 3.0.
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 10:39 AM
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i got mine out but they where a pain in the ars. i would just let them do it, and if u are thinking of reassembling the heads yourself... pay the extra money and let them, i did mine and it also was a pain due to the valve shims... smh wish i would of just payed the extra 200 for them to do it,
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 11:00 AM
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I just got off of the phone with machine shop and they said it would be about $1000 for them to rebuild both head. Ouch I wasnt expecting that much!
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 11:12 AM
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what did that include? i got a quote for 400 to 500 and thats cutting valves and seats and then assembling it and checking clearances. look around for a new place, what area u live in?
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 11:29 AM
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Get the title situation taken care of before you drop the money in it!

Have you thought about ordering a engine?
Check out Oregon engine Rebuilders they have a lifetime warranty as long as you own in...pretty reasonably prices aswell.
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 11:32 AM
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DO NOT USE ORE. Too many issues with the guys "lifetime" warranty. The guy does not deserve any more money from any toyota owner whatsoever. I will leave it at that.

That price sounds like it's an estimate assuming its still on the engine and is installed and reinstalled along with a headgasket replacement.
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 11:38 AM
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Yea, the engine builder who I got the estimate from is the same guy who built my 3SGTE which put down 390whp. He is a reputable shop, It was just much more than I expected.
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 11:47 AM
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well i would then ask him how much to cut the valves and seats and do the rest your self. it can be done with a little time and patience. u have to then cut the head of the valve and install and put in cam, measure the cam space and replace the shims or grind more valve to set clearances. i got shims from the shot i got my heads done and had to buy one shim from toyota at 10 bucks, other ones i spent 5 for each.
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 12:05 PM
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i would throw in a crank from perfect engine .com for 300 you get new crank plus main and rod bearings. i put one of these in a couple years ago and have had no problems, i did however get the forged unit that isnt offered anymore, i belive its just a 3.4 crank. 3.0 and 3.4 cranks spec out the same but the 3.0 is cast while 3.4 is forged
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 12:06 PM
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and you should be able to find a shop that wont burn a hole in your pocket, there are tons here. the little guy i use is a small outfit but the prices are golden and he does a kick butt job
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