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my clutch switch had been giving me intermittent problems, every now and again it wouldn't work at the pedal assembly so I would have to use the dash cancel button. ordered a new one, not expensive actually. replacement is extremely straight forward although I will say that I used more than a couple profanities trying to get the plastic connector apart. the clip sets deeper than you think, I had to use a small screw driver and press it into the tab to get it undone. theres a 14mm nut and locknut on the threaded portion. my new oem part did not come with two nuts so I reused one of the old one. I counted the threads to make sure it was positioned the same on the pedal. a dab of dielectric grease on the new connection. upon installation I noticed that the bracket holding it in place was slightly bent, so when the pedal bump stop hit the switch it wasn't aligned perfectly, this may have been the issue the whole time. I bent it back into place about 1/4" and depressed the pedal by hand to ensure alignment. part number for the switch is 84520-35010
genuin parts old switch new switch vs old installed
my clutch switch had been giving me intermittent problems, every now and again it wouldn't work at the pedal assembly so I would have to use the dash cancel button.
Stupid question/s: Dash cancel button? What is that? Why do you need it?
Stupid question/s: Dash cancel button? What is that? Why do you need it?
as far as I can tell it wasn't offered until IFS, so 86 and newer. the button is located on the dash to the left on the steering wheel. it allows you to start the vehicle without depressing the clutch pedal, provided that it is in neutral. I have found it handy for starting the truck without being in the truck, IE if your just warming it up in the mornings or even on a lift for maintenance.
as far as I can tell it wasn't offered until IFS, so 86 and newer. the button is located on the dash to the left on the steering wheel. it allows you to start the vehicle without depressing the clutch pedal, provided that it is in neutral. I have found it handy for starting the truck without being in the truck, IE if your just warming it up in the mornings or even on a lift for maintenance.
it does allow for starting in neutral without depressing the clutch, but it is probable that it was designed to allow the vehicle to be started in gear without using the clutch, a feature that can be very useful when needing to restart in steep terrain while off road.
it does allow for starting in neutral without depressing the clutch, but it is probable that it was designed to allow the vehicle to be started in gear without using the clutch, a feature that can be very useful when needing to restart in steep terrain while off road.
it does allow for starting in neutral without depressing the clutch, but it is probable that it was designed to allow the vehicle to be started in gear without using the clutch, a feature that can be very useful when needing to restart in steep terrain while off road.
Yes, this is the actual intended use for the clutch start cancel button, which is why they are only found on 4 Wheel Drive models from the factory.
This is from a newer Tacoma, but is the same idea:
Cut the switch off the green wires. Tie the green wires together and insulate...fixed.
i don't mean to come across as rude, but that is not fixed. fixed is diagnosing the issue and replacing / repairing the malfunctioning part. if i were standed in the middle of the Mojave and didn't have a replacement i would consider this, but when i have access to infinite resources online to aquire genuine oem Toyota parts, why in the world would i just hack switches out of my factory wire harness?
i don't mean to come across as rude, but that is not fixed. fixed is diagnosing the issue and replacing / repairing the malfunctioning part. if i were standed in the middle of the Mojave and didn't have a replacement i would consider this, but when i have access to infinite resources online to aquire genuine oem Toyota parts, why in the world would i just hack switches out of my factory wire harness?
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I figure the switches are there for a reason. We may scoff at the early Toyota electrical engineering, and engineers, but if I were being honest to myself, they're not COMPLETE idjits.
I have been an electronics tech my entire life, and got the Navy equivalent of a BSEE. Essentially the degree without the miscellaneous BS (no pun intended) a college would require. Art courses, English Lit, Spanish for Beginners, etc etc. I definately see the reasons for almost all the design features, with a few notable exceptions. The design of the starting circuit, the headlight switching, and so on.
I understand the economic reasons for them though, and the Toyota engineers had to answer to their bosses, just like we all do. Eliminate a relay here, some wire runs there, etc. Save the company, and thus the consumers, some money. Keep in as much safety and reliability as possible, though, while doing so.
No drama please! I didn't know about button, I read more about it and I see it could be useful in some circumstances. No double meaning in that.
About the direction the thread was taking, I'd like to say there are some forum members who are pragmatic and that is the way they try to help others. There are members who like to do things in the best way possible and that is the way they participate. Different points of view, pragmatics, perfectionists and the ones in the middle, after a while in Yotatech, we know each other, and at the end we know everybody tries to help.
Your threads are always full of info, again, thank you, I truly appreciate it.
Apr 1, 2020 | 05:59 AM
