Notices
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners 2nd/3rd gen pickups, and 1st/2nd gen 4Runners with IFS

Back to the Future

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 27, 2013 | 02:19 PM
  #101  
BK2TFUTURE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 407
Likes: 1
From: Daly City, CA
Originally Posted by BK2TFUTURE





My torque wrench start at 10lbs.

It should be o.k to torque the 9s at 10, yes?

What about the water pump? For The 6lbs, whats the best explanation for tightening?

Last edited by BK2TFUTURE; Feb 27, 2013 at 04:24 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2013 | 03:29 PM
  #102  
yotasavg's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,987
Likes: 0
From: Chico Republic, NOR*CAL
truck is looking awesome! can't wait to see it finished!
Reply
Old Mar 7, 2013 | 01:24 AM
  #103  
BK2TFUTURE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 407
Likes: 1
From: Daly City, CA
Finally got some work done!



I'll really need your help here on this part. Is there a diagram where it can tell me what bolts (what size and torque spec) and where they go?


I have a pile of bolts and I need to know where they go:







Reply
Old Mar 7, 2013 | 06:55 AM
  #104  
mt_goat's Avatar
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 10,666
Likes: 5
From: Oklahoma State
I can't help you now, but in the future make yourself a piece of card board to hold the bolts as you remove them.

Name:  Cnv1747.jpg
Views: 296
Size:  99.7 KB
Reply
Old Mar 7, 2013 | 07:22 AM
  #105  
BK2TFUTURE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 407
Likes: 1
From: Daly City, CA
Yeah we thought leaving them in the block would do the trick.

Oh well. We have some figuring out to do. The FSM/Haynes I have is useless. Thought there would be a diagram online like the timing cover.

I'll check with the machinist to to see what diagrams he has.

However please chime in if you see something you recognize.

Last edited by BK2TFUTURE; May 6, 2013 at 05:12 PM.
Reply
Old Mar 7, 2013 | 07:42 AM
  #106  
86STLRunner's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
From: St. Louis, Mo
Just found this thread. Very cool that your putting this work into it.

So in your pictures with the arrows and numbers, are you asking if those bolts are in the correct places? Im kind of confused.

You could start by seperating all of your bolts into like piles.

Then you can count them and see what looks like it would work. if you have 5 of one bolt, and 5 holes to fill, and they all work and thread in. The BEST thing you could do, is find someone locally with a 22re truck, and have them bring it over. You can look at thier engine and copy it to yours.

Good luck
Reply
Old Mar 7, 2013 | 10:51 AM
  #107  
BK2TFUTURE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 407
Likes: 1
From: Daly City, CA
Yeah, basically I was asking:

1 = this bolt size (torque)
2 = this bolt size (torque)

ect ect


Right now i'm waiting for the machine shop to get back to see if they can help.

However if someone has this info, I can reward you with some Illuminati paper or a plastic gift card

Otherwise i'm going to separate those bolts and play around until it somewhat makes sense.
Reply
Old Mar 7, 2013 | 02:12 PM
  #108  
mt_goat's Avatar
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 10,666
Likes: 5
From: Oklahoma State
Originally Posted by BK2TFUTURE
My torque wrench start at 10lbs.

It should be o.k to torque the 9s at 10, yes?

What about the water pump? For The 6lbs, whats the best explanation for tightening?
The best explanation is to get another T-wrench for smaller bolts, usually the smaller ones measure in inch pounds. To covert to inch-lbs multiply ft-lbs by 12.

I have had to buy 3 torque wrenches now.
Reply
Old Mar 7, 2013 | 02:16 PM
  #109  
mt_goat's Avatar
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 10,666
Likes: 5
From: Oklahoma State
Originally Posted by BK2TFUTURE
...The FSM/Haynes I have is useless. ...
Yeah Haynes manuals suck, the FSM (factory service manual) is better.
Reply
Old Mar 7, 2013 | 03:00 PM
  #110  
BK2TFUTURE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 407
Likes: 1
From: Daly City, CA
My buddy had a torque wrench that could measure that low (newtons), so from the pic above (last night). We are good.

The 1988 FSM I downloaded does not say much about the bolts though.
Reply
Old Mar 7, 2013 | 07:44 PM
  #111  
BK2TFUTURE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 407
Likes: 1
From: Daly City, CA
Injectors came in today from WitchHunter

After


Before




Last edited by BK2TFUTURE; May 6, 2013 at 05:37 PM.
Reply
Old Mar 7, 2013 | 09:29 PM
  #112  
Co_94_PU's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (-1)
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 5,433
Likes: 555
From: Colorado
http://personal.utulsa.edu/~nathan-b...11services.pdf

EG1-80 has torque specs. Should be a similar page in the other FSM.
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2013 | 12:24 AM
  #113  
BK2TFUTURE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 407
Likes: 1
From: Daly City, CA
Originally Posted by Co_94_PU
http://personal.utulsa.edu/~nathan-b...11services.pdf

EG1-80 has torque specs. Should be a similar page in the other FSM.
I'll print this out and look into it. Thank you sir!
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2013 | 12:28 AM
  #114  
BK2TFUTURE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 407
Likes: 1
From: Daly City, CA
Started putting some stuff back on. I'm missing a lot of bolts so this is just temp for now.






Reply
Old Mar 8, 2013 | 12:44 AM
  #115  
Co_94_PU's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (-1)
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 5,433
Likes: 555
From: Colorado
Originally Posted by BK2TFUTURE
I'll print this out and look into it. Thank you sir!
In the 88 FSM have a look at PDF page 1407, "B-1 Standard bolt torque specifications". Tells you how to ID the bolts and studs by physical characteristics, then lists the standard torque specs for each type.


Looking good man keep at it. Particularly like the second one seems to have a light halo
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2013 | 01:34 AM
  #116  
BK2TFUTURE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 407
Likes: 1
From: Daly City, CA
Originally Posted by Co_94_PU
In the 88 FSM have a look at PDF page 1407, "B-1 Standard bolt torque specifications". Tells you how to ID the bolts and studs by physical characteristics, then lists the standard torque specs for each type.


Looking good man keep at it. Particularly like the second one seems to have a light halo
I was looking at that page awhile back until my buddy (somehow) over torqued one of the bolts screwing up the thread on the timing cover. From that point on we kinda ignored that page and used the timing cover map. That was a perfect!

Now, using the pics I took, I've done the best I could putting them back. It's not exact but will work for now. Once we start putting things back together, we'll find out if their too short or too long.

I am now in need of bolts for the intake manifold and for the rear head plate.
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2013 | 07:13 AM
  #117  
mt_goat's Avatar
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 10,666
Likes: 5
From: Oklahoma State
Originally Posted by BK2TFUTURE
I was looking at that page awhile back until my buddy (somehow) over torqued one of the bolts screwing up the thread on the timing cover. From that point on we kinda ignored that page and used the timing cover map. That was a perfect!
http://personal.utulsa.edu/~nathan-b.../8standard.pdf

Just make sure you go by the bolt diameter/thread size and NOT the wrench size that fits the hex head.
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2013 | 10:10 AM
  #118  
BK2TFUTURE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 407
Likes: 1
From: Daly City, CA
We will do our best.

You guys will be the first to know when the motor falls off.
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2013 | 07:15 PM
  #119  
BK2TFUTURE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 407
Likes: 1
From: Daly City, CA
Tomorrow might be a good day and might have the motor put together. My buddy mentioned break in oil and I can't really get a straight answer from searching.

So, what oil should I use for the break in period? I've also read about a "zync" additive.

Whats the best procedure? What can I pick up down the road?
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2013 | 07:44 PM
  #120  
Co_94_PU's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (-1)
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 5,433
Likes: 555
From: Colorado
Originally Posted by BK2TFUTURE
I can't really get a straight answer from searching.
No one ever does! It's like hot sauce, whiskey, beer and broads/blokes. Everyone likes something different


But here is my opinion anyway.

All the real critical lubing is done during assembly, everything after that is marketing and personal preference. They don't come from the factory with a breakin done, and they last virtually forever. Cheap oil and often, the cheaper it is the more often you can change it!


try over at bobistheoilguy and I'm sure you'll get an ear full
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:11 AM.