88 P/U IFS 22RE w/ 33's...what should I regear to
Jun 24, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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88 P/U IFS 22RE w/ 33's...what should I regear to
I'm looking at a 1988 Toyota P/U w/ a 22re and a 5spd tranny. It has a 4" body lift and 33x12.50R15 BFG's. My whole purpose for downsizing in vehicle size is to get good fuel economy. But this thing just looks so sick!! haha. So my question here is what should I regear to for fuel economy(4.56's?, 4.88's? or what)?, I mean the truck cant be doin too well right now. The most offroading Ill be doing is weekends on the beach or in a mud pit, so I dont need a whole whole bunch of rock crawling strength.
Thanks in advance yall!
Thanks in advance yall!
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Jun 24, 2008 | 03:25 PM
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x2. Body lifts should never be higher then 3". Leverage gets to be too much after that point. I would think about chopping an inch off that body lift, and lifting the suspension to gain it back.
Jun 24, 2008 | 05:10 PM
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sorry, Im only 17 so Im still learnin a lot about this stuff.
Im not so sure what you mean about the leverage?
but it seems like yall are definately against the body lift. I was thinkin the same thing myself...
And yall think 4.88 will give me what Im lookin for?
Thanks
Im not so sure what you mean about the leverage?
but it seems like yall are definately against the body lift. I was thinkin the same thing myself...
And yall think 4.88 will give me what Im lookin for?
Thanks
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Jun 24, 2008 | 05:13 PM
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Think about this.
Try to remove a rusted bolt with a 5" long rachet, hard right? Now try one thats 15" long, easier right? Thats leverage. THe same thing happens when you lift your body off the frame (body lift). THe bolts must be longer to accomidate the lift, therefore they are not under more stress due to leverage. I have known a few people who ran 4" body lifts, they were fine. But I find it unsettling. General rule of thumb, 3" is the max for body lifts.
ANd yes, 4.88's will be good. That should put the truck right back to stock in terms of gearing.
You could go to 5.29's if you wanted more low end power at the expense of higher rpms on the highway...
Try to remove a rusted bolt with a 5" long rachet, hard right? Now try one thats 15" long, easier right? Thats leverage. THe same thing happens when you lift your body off the frame (body lift). THe bolts must be longer to accomidate the lift, therefore they are not under more stress due to leverage. I have known a few people who ran 4" body lifts, they were fine. But I find it unsettling. General rule of thumb, 3" is the max for body lifts.
ANd yes, 4.88's will be good. That should put the truck right back to stock in terms of gearing.
You could go to 5.29's if you wanted more low end power at the expense of higher rpms on the highway...
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Jun 24, 2008 | 05:24 PM
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Thanks Jay.
And Hurley, here's your pix:
and this is what the guy told me about it....not buying the 20 mpg thing.
And Hurley, here's your pix:
and this is what the guy told me about it....not buying the 20 mpg thing.
"a 1988 toyota pickup it has the awesome 22re 4cylinder with a 5 speed with only 131,655 miles! i have installed alot of accesories including a 4 inch body lift, 33x12.5 bf goodrich mud terrains mounted on 15x10 polished centerline rims, rancho rs5000 off road shocks,it has an aluminum tool box with cb antennas,also has a glasspack exhaust no cat,15% tinted windows, as for the inside the seats and carpet are in perfect condition it has a sony xplod radio and a cb. the only thing wrong with this truck is the normal toyota rust (not alot) i patched it with some bondo it looks alright better than it did. there is a dent in the tailgate that could be popped out easily. this would make someone a great daily driver as i am currently driving it it looks great with the lift and wheels and even gets about 20 mpg if you have any quesions just ask"
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Jun 24, 2008 | 05:55 PM
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4.88 gears are what you want
BTW, you can just fit 33's on an IFS with 1" body lift, 1" torsion lift -or- ball joint spacers, longer shackles to lift the rear a bit, and hammer the body seam in the rear of the front wheel well flat. A lower profile truck will get better fuel economy, unless you're really looking for the lifted 80's look . . .
BTW, you can just fit 33's on an IFS with 1" body lift, 1" torsion lift -or- ball joint spacers, longer shackles to lift the rear a bit, and hammer the body seam in the rear of the front wheel well flat. A lower profile truck will get better fuel economy, unless you're really looking for the lifted 80's look . . .
Jun 29, 2008 | 10:22 PM
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Not Trying to Go Against The Grain here But Just Curious Why You Guys Would Recommend 4:88's For Such A Small Tire? Here Is A Picture Of My Buddy's Rig, (Back When He Used To Drive It On The Street Still) 22RE 37's And 4:88's. Hits 70 MPH On The FWY And About 18-20 MPG
And Now On 39.5" Irocs, No Longer Driven On The Streets, Still Running 4:88's And Still Hauls Ass On The Lakebed
And Now On 39.5" Irocs, No Longer Driven On The Streets, Still Running 4:88's And Still Hauls Ass On The Lakebed
Jun 29, 2008 | 10:48 PM
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4.88's with 33's bring the powerband back to stock (w/ 5speed, 5.29's w/ auto).
Yes you can run larger tires on 4.88's and yes, you can run 33's on higher gears (4.10's, what I still run with mine) and survive, its just not fun.
And the 20mpg, sounds right. I get about 19, mainly at highway speeds. In town its probably closer to 15 or so.
Take a inch out of the body lift then put some money into a drivetrain lift. Cleans up the underside and gives ya more ground clearance under the frame.
Yes you can run larger tires on 4.88's and yes, you can run 33's on higher gears (4.10's, what I still run with mine) and survive, its just not fun.
And the 20mpg, sounds right. I get about 19, mainly at highway speeds. In town its probably closer to 15 or so.
Take a inch out of the body lift then put some money into a drivetrain lift. Cleans up the underside and gives ya more ground clearance under the frame.
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