3vze #6 EXH valve, Is it burnt? Say maybe not!
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3vze #6 EXH valve, Is it burnt? Say maybe not!
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This is my first post on the site. I've got a '95 pickup V6 that been running rough at idle and throwing a lean engine code (for longer than I care to admit). The truck still has decent power and gets 16mpg.
My 3vze has 188,000 on it and #6 cylinder has almost zero compression while all the others are around 160psi. I checked the valve clearance on #6 exh valve and there was NO measurable clearance. I swapped the 2.9mm shim with a 2.75mm shim (.006 smaller) and still there was no clearance that was measurable.
My question is: Is it possible that the valve is WAY out of adjustment (needing a smaller shim) or is this a sure sign of a burnt valve? Is there any hope a different shim will bring the compression back?
Thanks for any help!
This is my first post on the site. I've got a '95 pickup V6 that been running rough at idle and throwing a lean engine code (for longer than I care to admit). The truck still has decent power and gets 16mpg.
My 3vze has 188,000 on it and #6 cylinder has almost zero compression while all the others are around 160psi. I checked the valve clearance on #6 exh valve and there was NO measurable clearance. I swapped the 2.9mm shim with a 2.75mm shim (.006 smaller) and still there was no clearance that was measurable.
My question is: Is it possible that the valve is WAY out of adjustment (needing a smaller shim) or is this a sure sign of a burnt valve? Is there any hope a different shim will bring the compression back?
Thanks for any help!
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Could be burned/stuck open if it's been that way for a while. The only way to know for sure is to pull the head. If compression is at zero & you're still getting 16 mpg, you're one lucky SOB~
More details about the engine/truck would be helpful. It's easiest to just add it to your signature so it's always there (year/model/engine/tranny/4wd/etc.).
More details about the engine/truck would be helpful. It's easiest to just add it to your signature so it's always there (year/model/engine/tranny/4wd/etc.).
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I just finished adjusting the valves on my 3vze a few hours ago. Mine had never been adjusted in the 280,000 miles i have had the truck. The initial readings were as follows: #1@160psi, #2@155psi, #3@160psi, #4@90psi, #5@160psi and #6@130psi. The clearance for all intake valves were spot on @.010in. The exhaust valve clearances were another story with #1@.004 ,#2@.007, #3@.005, #4@0(no clearance at all), #5@.006 and #6@.005. I found the chart in the factory manual to be pretty helpful for finding the correct replacement shim thickness except for the one that had zero clearance. I had to first order the size the chart suggested then after i had actual measurable clearance i had to order a thinner shim to get the correct gap. So after all exhaust valves were shimmed to the factory specs between .009-.013in i have the following results: #1@165psi, #2@170psi, #3@170psi, #4@110psi, #5@170psi, #6@170psi. I obviously still have an issue with my #4 cylinder compression which i suppose is a burnt valve from having zero clearance for too long. That will be worked on later. I just wanted to show everyone that MOST of the compression numbers did improve after adjusting the valve clearance within spec. Even with the #4 cylinder that low the engine runs much better than before. All compression test were done with engine warm.
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what wre the intake clearances? that can have a lot to do with compression too.
i'd hate to think you went thru that and still have a prob with the intakes.
nevermind- i see you said there on
i'd hate to think you went thru that and still have a prob with the intakes.
nevermind- i see you said there on
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Nice work Nerdlip! I bet she runs like a deer in hunting season now! I ordered a 2.3 and 2.4mm shim for my #6 exhaust valve (educated guess). Turns out the 2.3 mm shim gave me exactly .013" clearance. With the old shim the valve had -.011" clearance. My compression went from zero to 75psi! I am going to check it again soon after driving it for a few weeks to see if there is any change. I can't imagine having to check the valve lash every 30k miles like the book says.
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My 4runner had a CEL with a misfire code. It ran fine except for occasionally stalling at idle particularly when the engine was hot. Dealer reported that the compression in cylinder #2 was 135 psi. Recommended a $4,000 head job. I took it home and adjusted the valves the compression came up to 174, nearly at spec. Don't hesitate to question dealer diagnosis. 2.7 liter engine with 211K.
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