3VZ-E timing belt tips?
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3VZ-E timing belt tips?
Hi all. Been lurking for a while but first post. Getting ready to do the timing belt and water pump on my '92 pickup SR5 with the 3VZ-E. I haven't done anything this major before. Timing belt is overdue and I recently discovered that the water pump is leaking pretty bad (I've been supplementing with pre-mixed coolant to replace what is lost). Needless to say, I didn't want to wait any longer. I love this truck to pieces. Getting help from my uncle who has lots of experience with other makes (he has rebuilt and re-sold several BMWs) but no Toyota experience. Component kit and water pump ordered from RockAuto and on their way. I'm expecting it to take at least 2 days since it's my first time.
Anyway I've been reading lots of the other posts in the forum about this and the one thing that strikes me is just how many little things there are to worry about that aren't mentioned in the service manual (I'm using the '93 one that's online). So i figured this would be a good place for people to just throw tips and advice at me to make me feel better about this undertaking. So what do I absolutely need to know (that I won't find in the manual), before I start?
Anyway I've been reading lots of the other posts in the forum about this and the one thing that strikes me is just how many little things there are to worry about that aren't mentioned in the service manual (I'm using the '93 one that's online). So i figured this would be a good place for people to just throw tips and advice at me to make me feel better about this undertaking. So what do I absolutely need to know (that I won't find in the manual), before I start?
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The manual is really pretty comprehensive.
You might look at this: https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...-there-281065/
You might look at this: https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...-there-281065/
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To loosen up the crank shaft bolt try this . Unplug the coil wire "you don't want the truck to start and run". Then put a socket and breaker bar against the bottom
passenger side of the frame .
Give the starter a bump and it will unloosen the bolt.
Think about what your doing and don't get your hand pinched.
When the motor is at tdc Be sure to mark the cam pulleys to the head before you take the old belt off. They will sometimes rotate and will be off a couple of teeth and wipe out your valves if you just put on a new belt with out alining the cams with the crank.
passenger side of the frame .
Give the starter a bump and it will unloosen the bolt.
Think about what your doing and don't get your hand pinched.
When the motor is at tdc Be sure to mark the cam pulleys to the head before you take the old belt off. They will sometimes rotate and will be off a couple of teeth and wipe out your valves if you just put on a new belt with out alining the cams with the crank.
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It's a good idea to replace the cam and crank seals. They will fail eventually and contaminate the new belt with oil. That'll weaken it and could cause it to fail early.
Build this tool: https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...l-tool-186081/
Without it, removing the crank pulley bolt and the cam bolts are very difficult.
Replace the two idler pulleys too while you're at it or there's a good chance you'll be taking it all apart again in a couple of years.
Build this tool: https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...l-tool-186081/
Without it, removing the crank pulley bolt and the cam bolts are very difficult.
Replace the two idler pulleys too while you're at it or there's a good chance you'll be taking it all apart again in a couple of years.
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I ended up having to do a timing belt job on my '93 3VZE, in a well lit parking lot, in the middle of the night, with a limited tool compliment. Is it the most difficult job on the planet, no. On a scale of 0 - 10, with 10 being the most difficult...I'd call the job a 7. That number is going to vary from person to person though, depending on mechanical experience AND your cognitive ability to look at something and figure out how it works, how it comes apart, how it goes back together, etc. You also need to, at minimum, be able to follow the FSM directions.
I don't have any tips or tricks for you...but as I was able to pull off the job in about four hours, already on limited sleep, in the middle of the night in a random parking lot...USING ONLY THE FSM (never having worked on this engine to that depth before that job)...the FSM spells it out pretty well.
Take your time. Keep track of your bolts, washers, nuts, etc. Lay them out in whatever method of organization works for you.
Oh...and if you get stuck (and the FSM isn't helping curb your consternation)...do what I did...pull up Yotatech and use the search function. If it weren't for the FSM and this site, that night would not have resulted in a functioning 'runner.
Best of luck, bud!
P.S. Rumor has it that this is a non-interference engine...so if you screw up badly enough, don't worry...the pistons aren't going to ram into your valves.
I don't have any tips or tricks for you...but as I was able to pull off the job in about four hours, already on limited sleep, in the middle of the night in a random parking lot...USING ONLY THE FSM (never having worked on this engine to that depth before that job)...the FSM spells it out pretty well.
Take your time. Keep track of your bolts, washers, nuts, etc. Lay them out in whatever method of organization works for you.
Oh...and if you get stuck (and the FSM isn't helping curb your consternation)...do what I did...pull up Yotatech and use the search function. If it weren't for the FSM and this site, that night would not have resulted in a functioning 'runner.
Best of luck, bud!
P.S. Rumor has it that this is a non-interference engine...so if you screw up badly enough, don't worry...the pistons aren't going to ram into your valves.
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Build this tool: https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...l-tool-186081/
Without it, removing the crank pulley bolt and the cam bolts are very difficult.
Replace the two idler pulleys too while you're at it or there's a good chance you'll be taking it all apart again in a couple of years.
Without it, removing the crank pulley bolt and the cam bolts are very difficult.
Replace the two idler pulleys too while you're at it or there's a good chance you'll be taking it all apart again in a couple of years.
EDIT: Silly me, I will just go to Home Depot.
And yes, I plan to replace the idlers. They're coming with the kit. I got the Gates TCK240.
I ended up having to do a timing belt job on my '93 3VZE, in a well lit parking lot, in the middle of the night, with a limited tool compliment. Is it the most difficult job on the planet, no. On a scale of 0 - 10, with 10 being the most difficult...I'd call the job a 7. That number is going to vary from person to person though, depending on mechanical experience AND your cognitive ability to look at something and figure out how it works, how it comes apart, how it goes back together, etc. You also need to, at minimum, be able to follow the FSM directions.
I don't have any tips or tricks for you...but as I was able to pull off the job in about four hours, already on limited sleep, in the middle of the night in a random parking lot...USING ONLY THE FSM (never having worked on this engine to that depth before that job)...the FSM spells it out pretty well.
Take your time. Keep track of your bolts, washers, nuts, etc. Lay them out in whatever method of organization works for you.
Oh...and if you get stuck (and the FSM isn't helping curb your consternation)...do what I did...pull up Yotatech and use the search function. If it weren't for the FSM and this site, that night would not have resulted in a functioning 'runner.
Best of luck, bud!
P.S. Rumor has it that this is a non-interference engine...so if you screw up badly enough, don't worry...the pistons aren't going to ram into your valves.
I don't have any tips or tricks for you...but as I was able to pull off the job in about four hours, already on limited sleep, in the middle of the night in a random parking lot...USING ONLY THE FSM (never having worked on this engine to that depth before that job)...the FSM spells it out pretty well.
Take your time. Keep track of your bolts, washers, nuts, etc. Lay them out in whatever method of organization works for you.
Oh...and if you get stuck (and the FSM isn't helping curb your consternation)...do what I did...pull up Yotatech and use the search function. If it weren't for the FSM and this site, that night would not have resulted in a functioning 'runner.
Best of luck, bud!
P.S. Rumor has it that this is a non-interference engine...so if you screw up badly enough, don't worry...the pistons aren't going to ram into your valves.
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His words of wisdom to me, after issuing the 'ticket' and taking pictures of my truck and tools, were, "you should have gotten it towed to a shop." My reply, verbatim, was (in a very matter-of-fact tone and volume), "This is America...we fix our own sheeeIT 'round here!"
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To loosen up the crank shaft bolt try this . Unplug the coil wire "you don't want the truck to start and run". Then put a socket and breaker bar against the bottom
passenger side of the frame .
Give the starter a bump and it will unloosen the bolt.
Think about what your doing and don't get your hand pinched...
passenger side of the frame .
Give the starter a bump and it will unloosen the bolt.
Think about what your doing and don't get your hand pinched...
Hillsbjp is correct; the 3VZE is a non-interference engine, so this isn't really a risk HERE. (Not true for other engines, so good "general" advice.) You do want to keep track, more or less, of where each shaft is.
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Confirmed or not, I don't like the idea of using engine power when tools are attached to things. Even my parking lot timing belt job was doable w/o such craziness. Do it right or don't do it at all. Use the muscles that baby Jesus gave you and the appropriate tools - if tools weren't needed, they wouldn't have been invented.
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I wasn't talking about starting the engine. Just putting it in gear to keep the crank from rotating while pulling on the wrench. As far as messing up the transmission, the 3vz is rated at 180 ft-lbs torque. Seems pretty unlikely that Toyota would match it with a transmission that would fail at that same torque.
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No idea. Not since I've owned it. I am its 3rd owner and they took it to the shop for all the maintenance before i owned it. Only thing I have done is oil changes, the occasional light bulb, and the new radiatior 6 months ago. I will definitely investigate. It does have a bit of a clicking or tapping sound right now but that was pretty low on my list of priorities.
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