BlazeN8

Hey guys,

I saw Blazeland mentioned in the thread so I thought I'd investigate. It sounds like the confusion has been cleared up about Blazeland making a 2wd compatable suspension system. I do not!

I read through the thread and liked the coil assist set up. The spring rate increase is desirable for heavy loads or towing. Increasing spring rate is a way to lift to the vehicle but the ride gets stiffer. The modified spindle looks beefy but I am probably missing something in the geometry of the design because I cannot see the backside of the spindle and there is no mention of a drop bracket, so what I am about to say may not apply to this situation. Here are my thoughts:

A ball joint spacer and spindle spacer have some differences to be noted. The ball joint spacer moves the control arm upwards but the ball joint actually pivots in the same location on the spindle as stock. A spindle spacer spaces the ball joint upwards so when it pivots it does so in a new location on the spindle. This will cause a camber change. It will likely cause a positve camber at droop and a negative camber at stuff. What commonly is done with a spindle spacer to return the geometry to a neutral position is to move the pivot points for the LCA at the frame down vertically the same amount as the spindle space increase. This is where a drop bracket comes into play. Another way to accomplish the correct geometry is to move the lower ball joint upwards within the spindle. This can improve ground clearance. The basic therory is the vertical distance at the spindle from the upper ball joint and the lower ball joint need to be as close as possible to the distance between the UCA pivot and the LCA pivot. This keeps the UCA and LCA parallel to each other.

rattlewagon

why not just SPOA in the rear? would that be too much lift?

rhill

I think my stock shocks fully extended in the rear were 21", the new ones are around 24" if i remember correctly...the first set i ordered were advertised as 3" longer than stock but weren't, so i had to get em replaced...that's the only reason i know the measurements. from bolt to bolt sitting on the ground measured 21", so i could have left my stocks on there but it woulda sucked.

dang blaze...i have no idea what you said but i'm gunna try to figure it out, cause it sounds really smart. abe knows alot more about 2wd suspension than i do, but i've got pictures!! here's one of the back of the spindle.

rhill

ps...i don't know what SPOA stands for

camo31_10.50

i coulda swore i seena 2wd with the blazeland suspension setup in the front...guess im wrong..oh well im only human!

on another note...SOA means Spring Over Axle..

im not sure what SPOA means..im thinking it means the same though

BlazeN8

Thanks for posting the backside photo, I now know how the geometry of the design works. If you compare the core spindle to the modified spindle you can see the mounting location for the ball joints shift corespondingly to one another 3" vertically further up the spindle. No drop bracket required for this set up. Good design, awsome workmanship, and super strong. I can totally understand $500 for the set.

black89t

very helpful thread! im looking to lift the front of my truck and this helps a lot.

CTACKETT998

what kit did you use on the back? lifting my 2wd and wanna know