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Old Oct 4, 2020 | 12:04 PM
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22RE Knock Sensor mount completely missing on new block?

I just bought a rebuilt block and have it about 80% completed but when I took the knock sensor off the old block to put on the new block, there's no port for it. ​​​​Now what? I can't not have one or the ECU is going to throw codes at me all day long.

It's an '86 4x4 pickup w/ auto-trans.


Old knock-sensor mount hole

Where the hole should be. The capped port below is an oil galley port.
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Old Oct 4, 2020 | 12:34 PM
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20r donor block, what does the other side look like?
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Old Oct 4, 2020 | 12:38 PM
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Exhaust side. Looks exactly the same as my old block, same model stamp too "22R"



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Old Oct 4, 2020 | 01:06 PM
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11401-35022, 84-85 Celica.
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Old Oct 4, 2020 | 01:12 PM
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Balls, I know about those blocks too. The only ones without a knock sensor mount. I never guessed I would run into one though. Thanks for figuring that out.

I guess I'm going to make my own mount. Looks like a M12 x 1.25 tap. Would it be better to use the flat circular spot just below the fuel filter or bore out one of the unused mounts near the oil sensor?
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ECU I expect is just taking amplitude levels and not timing between ignition trigger, ignition fired, and peak knock sensor amplitude. Just because that's a lot of math for an 8bit CPU and a lot gets lost in the rounding for decimal math.. 3-6000m/s, 110 ignitions/s at 6500rpm

Given that the ECU doesn't care where it is as long as it's in the block. I'm not coming up with any reason, that's not a hazard everywhere else, you couldn't expand the hole in the oil gallery. My only real concern is if you get a bit stuck and crack out the block. Blowing out the mount ear you've got three more tries before you need a good cast steel brazing guy or a new block..
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Old Oct 4, 2020 | 02:34 PM
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Yep, as long as it's in the block it should work. Thanks again for the help.

LC Engineering had a small article about relocating the knock sensor and recommend the lowest unused mount point, so that's the one I bored and tapped.

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