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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 08:39 AM
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Should I drop the oil pan (since I'm doing everything else)!!! Pics

89 4runner with 175,000 or so miles. Engine ran good, decent power, but the camshaft was junk and the middle camshaft holder thingy got galled up. Should I drop the oil pan and make sure no metal is in the bottom of it floating around?

Will be getting a totally new head, camshaft, chain and tensioners, etc., from engrbldr.com shortly.

What would you do? Thanks.

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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 08:46 AM
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Is the oil full of metal? In the case if it is, Its not a bad idea at all especially if your cam lobes were rounded off and the bearings are trashed. Then I might consider taking a look at the oil pump to see if its full of metal.-That might be overkill, but I have seen a few cams go flat with some not so good results to crank bearings ect.Good luck!
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 02:34 PM
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I haven't drained the oil, but I am using a WIX oil filter. The back part of the cam is trashed, along with the center bearing carrier, or journal. The rest of the lobes and carriers looked good. So I'm thinking the oil isn't full of metal, but a case of abusing the truck and just having a ton of miles on it.

How hard would it be to drop the oil pan off it? I looked under the truck. Looks like a pretty tight fit.

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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 03:19 PM
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pull the oil filter and cut the case open. Take a look at the filter material inside, see if it's full of metal
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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on a straight axle truck it should be a piece of cake. pull off the "skidpan", probably good idea to take off the swaybar as well. should be right there, just unbolt it and slide it off.
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by kyle_22r
on a straight axle truck it should be a piece of cake. pull off the "skidpan", probably good idea to take off the swaybar as well. should be right there, just unbolt it and slide it off.
And what if a person has the IFS? Oh, oh time??!!

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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 07:33 PM
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then they are in the wrong section of this forum
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by L33T35T 4Runner
then they are in the wrong section of this forum

My truck is a 89 4Runner with IFS.......why has it been moved to the solid axle forum?

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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 08:30 PM
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take the skid plate off, unbolt the idler arm at the frame, let it hang out of the way, then unbolt the engine mounts, then jack up the tranny to lift engine and trans to make room to pull out the oil pan from the front. That's what I did on mine and it was a piece of cake. Oh and mines a '94 4runner with IFS and a 22-re 5speed.
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 4runnermt
take the skid plate off, unbolt the idler arm at the frame, let it hang out of the way, then unbolt the engine mounts, then jack up the tranny to lift engine and trans to make room to pull out the oil pan from the front. That's what I did on mine and it was a piece of cake. Oh and mines a '94 4runner with IFS and a 22-re 5speed.

Thanks!! I'll give that a try!!

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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 08:40 PM
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No problem, good luck dude!
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 05:23 AM
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I still don't know why my IFS truck was moved to the solid axle forum?

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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 05:36 PM
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If you have the head off and the pan droped.. why not just replace rings and bearings with a stock set while youre in there..?
Just a suggestion.
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 06:01 PM
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dumb question... could one get a strong magnet and "collect" metal shavings from elsewhere in the pan and kind of direct them over toward the plug, so that when you empty it they would be flushed out?
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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It would have to be one hell of a strong magnet to pull all of the metal out. I think pan removal is the best bet. When I did my timing gear/chain, I had to take off the pan to remove all of the timing guide plastic pieces.
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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cool. good to know. thx
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