what do you think? would they be very flexy? it turns out the set of stock rear leafs i have obtained arnt even. it appears that one is sagging about an inch lower than the other. just out of curiousity what would happen if i took the top 2 or 3 leaves from the downey springs and put them in the front? give it a few inches of lift and long travel?

 

anybody?

 

They'll flex like mad for about a month before bending. I doubt you'll get more than an inch or two of lift out of them. Might need to add a leaf or two. Go for it.

 

i'd at least put the overloads from a rear pack in and/or an add-a-leaf setup. they are very soft, but keep in mind that the downey instructions say to install the original overload leafs to the lift pack before installing.

 

so throw in all of the leaves from the downey pack plus an add-a-leaf!? wont that be really stiff?

 

well if its a rear 3" lift going into the front i should get at minimum 3" if i put that exact pack into the front.

only thing im worried about is how are these stiff 'lift springs' going to be soft and long travel in the front and not the rear? are they THAT much longer than a front spring that it would make that big of a difference? or am i better off going with a stock rear spring custom made pack like 4Crawlers'?

 

i also just remembered i have some 4" lift skyjacker rear springs in my garage. they have 3 leafs plus and overload plus shims. how well would these work on the front? soft and flexy or stuff and non felxy?

 

the reason behind the lift springs in the front is that that they may be stiff in the rear, the front has a LOT more weight on it and they'll flex better than they would if used in the rear.

 

kyle is once again correct. That's why I doubt you'll see 3" of lift in the front from those springs.

I ran those springs on my 86 4Runner w/ a Rancho front. W/ the rancho dialed in at 2" lift, the rears sagged so fast that the truck was butt low... I had to add longer shackles to level it. Those three inch leaves gave me about an inch of lift.

 

so if i put my skyjackers in the front with some lift shackles do you guys think i can get 4 inches lift out of them?

 

so ive heard about putting stock rear springs up front and them being very flexable. is this due to anything except the leafs themselfes. i was talking to one of my buddys today and i might not get the softness and flexability by putting my skyjackers or downeys rather than a stock rear or custom pack made of stock rear leafs. would the slightly longer spring have anthing to do with it? the center being off to one side? i dont want to do all the work to put another stiff and non flexy spring on the front of my rig.

 

Rears up front are soft and flexible becuase there is more weight in the front than the rear, also, they are inboarded slightly, which allows better flex.
There is no real way to tell how yours will work, unless someone happens to have used those same rears. The whole rear-up-front thing is basically a geuss and check sort of set up. Combine two stock rear packs, creating around a 6 leaf pack, see what happens. If you put your 3 inch lifted springs in the front, they should be flexier and softer than they were in the rear. How much? Noone knows, put them in and test it, add a leaf or remove a leaf as necessary. If you don't want to do any adjusting, then building custom spring packs isn't for you. Go buy a marlin or TG kit and install it, done, 4 inches, perfect.

 

all pro springs are verrrrry temping right now. the only thing is. if i had the cash i would go buy them. money is the issue. i have a pair of rear 3" lift downeys, 4" lift skyjackers, and a stock rear pack(one side has a broken leaf). all sitting around.(downeys currently on the rig) all i would need to purchase are hangers, shackles, shocks and shock mounts. it would save me 270 dollars. the thing is i may have to do a lot of experimenting with shackles and add leafs to get the lift i want and hopefully i'll still have the flex.

 

I would advise against the all-pro springs. I bought there 5 1/2 inch lift springs and they sagged within a couple months now that there 2 1/2 years old they are close to flat and I'm suspecting that they have not settled even. I've heard Marlins springs are better but I'm not sure.

 

marlins are more expensive. maybe they're better. could the all pro springs be better now than they were 2 years ago?

 

im really stating to think there is too much darn complications and non-gaurente lift heights with all of these short cuts. im really thinking of just saving up 2grand and buying the trail flex kit from marlin. then i have my 4 or 5 inches AND my long travel