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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 10:16 PM
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Question About Front Door Panels, Please Help!

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I have an 84 4runner that I need front door panels for. I found a nice pair that are from 84-89 but they are from a door which had power windows and a vent window (mine has neither...i have manual windows and no vent window). Would they still fit?? If not does anyone know a place where i could find some nice ones? I've looked on ebay and they're hard to come by in the salvage yards I live by. Any help is appreciated, Thanks!
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Old Sep 3, 2008 | 06:24 AM
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yes ... they will fit .

you could actually gut the power doors , and remove the frame for the vent window(just a bolt in piece) , and replace with your manual stuff .. if you wanted .
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Old Sep 3, 2008 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by slacker
yes ... they will fit .

you could actually gut the power doors , and remove the frame for the vent window(just a bolt in piece) , and replace with your manual stuff .. if you wanted .
wouldnt replacing the door be 110X easier?
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Old Sep 3, 2008 | 11:06 AM
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They should swap with no problems other then posibly having to cut a hole for the window crank.
Other then that you can make your own very easily with a little 1/8" hard board, some thin foam, fabric and spray adhesive.
Just use the old panel as a pattern and cut and/or drill out the holes to match.
It's actually quite easy.
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Old Sep 3, 2008 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by t0mwat3r
wouldnt replacing the door be 110X easier?

HUH ?

maybe I didnt make myself clear . YES it will bolt on .




what I was saying .. is once you have replaced the door .. you can GUT it , and put the original door stuff in .. so they match . there is NO drilling or cutting ..
there is only 1 door shell from 84-88. they are interchangeable .



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Old Sep 3, 2008 | 10:46 PM
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They should swap with no problems other then posibly having to cut a hole for the window crank.
Other then that you can make your own very easily with a little 1/8" hard board, some thin foam, fabric and spray adhesive.
Just use the old panel as a pattern and cut and/or drill out the holes to match.
It's actually quite easy.
That's what I was hoping...but i know there's a hole where the wires for the power window goes through the panel. If that isn't where the hole for the manual crank goes i would be effed cause I can't do fabricating work very well if i had to patch the hole and move it over a little. But the panel itself is the same size?? they're not longer for the models with vent windows?
Thanks for the help so far!
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Old Sep 3, 2008 | 11:21 PM
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The panels are all the same for everything so far as lenght front to back goes. Base models only have a half panel top to bottom wise the bottom 1/3 was uncovered. On DLX models there was a full height vinyl covered panel and SR5 models had a full height vinyl but with the bottom 1/3 colour "matched" carpet. 1983 may have had a cloth on the SR5s.
84-88 models were the same except the SR5 had cloth for sure.
89-95 had full height vinyl on base and DLX models and cloth on SR5s.
Other differences included different armrests on different trim levels, door speakers 79-83 (depending on option pkg.) and so forth.

As for fabricating work don't worry the door skins are just about the easiest interior panel to fab. They are all flat. The armrests attach to the door itself not the skin as does the handle and everything else (except maybe the speaker box and map pockets).
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Old Sep 4, 2008 | 05:40 PM
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AHHHHH ... now I get it ..


your talking the INNER trim panels !!! sorry MY BAD ..


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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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"...there is only 1 door shell from 84-88. they are interchangeable..."
WRONG! The doors with wing windows are DIFFERENT from ones without. The frame for the wing window is welded to the door shell.

Re. the OP's questions: The rubber strip sealing against the window, and it's metal backing plate, are different for "vented" and "non-vented" interior panels. Although, you can use your old rubber strip and modify the backing plate without too much trouble. 'Don't know about the "holes".
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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 04:18 AM
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Is it possible to install power windows and still have the vent windows?
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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 06:30 AM
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I made my half doors from a set of manual doors with wing windows. The wing window assembly is bolted to the door frame, and the rubber trim for the wind window is different as well. But they are the same door frames, Toyota made it a modular system so they could option it out how ever they needed to.
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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 89RUNNERFFD
Is it possible to install power windows and still have the vent windows?
I'm sure you can I've seen 1gens with wings and power windows though it was a very rare option pairing. As the previous poster mentioned there is almost no mechanical difference between wing and no wing doors.

If you do decide to go for the power option don't forget to grab the "door control relay" box. It is located under the dash on 89-95s it is attached to the brace cross member above the driver's side fusebox. IDK where it is on 84-88s or if there even was one... without it none of the windows or locks will work.

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