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Old Sep 1, 2017 | 11:24 AM
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1985 22re starter relay

for some odd reason my 1985 22re will not start with ignition key. starter and solenoid are fine, neutral SW fine.Voltage leaves ignition. No voltage to connector before the safety SW. does this vehicle have a starter relay? If so where.
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Old Sep 1, 2017 | 01:19 PM
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If it does it should be on the passenger side of the engine bay just behind the fuse box. But the earlier ones don't seem to have them. I upgraded mine based on what Ray (RAD4Runner) has posted here several times.
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Old Sep 1, 2017 | 07:56 PM
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Here. http://www.toyota-4runner.org/classi...rank-22re.html
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Old Sep 2, 2017 | 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by steve miller
...Voltage leaves ignition. No voltage to connector before the safety SW.
Trace the wire between ignition switch ST1 contact and your neutral safety switch.

does this vehicle have a starter relay?
Probably not.

Originally Posted by L5wolvesf
If it does it should be on the passenger side of the engine bay just behind the fuse box. But the earlier ones don't seem to have them. I upgraded mine based on what Ray (RAD4Runner) has posted here several times.
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Long story short... (after you send 12V to your Neutral Safety Switch, AND double-check your starter solenoid.
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Old Sep 2, 2017 | 02:24 AM
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The auto Transmissions never had starter relays at least in the early years
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Old Jun 23, 2023 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by wyoming9
The auto Transmissions never had starter relays at least in the early years
I don't seem to have a relay around engine bay fuse box...so what do I hear that clicks once when key is turned to start?
Will the computer click once?
I removed glove compartment door, passenger side kick panel and even checked behind the computer. I didn't
see any relay.
I also took starter off and had it tested twice, which it showed good.
I replaced positive battery cable to starter...mainly because someone before me had put a cable on it
that was 1-1/2 feet too long.
Only thing I know is to replace ignition switch, although ACC and ON seem to work fine, just not START position,
only a single click from somewhere.
Thank you,
Keith [slowboy]
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Old Jun 23, 2023 | 06:36 AM
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Starter Relay Only Appeared on mid-1986 MANUAL trans models

Hi Keith,
Starter Relay Only Appeared on mid-1986 MANUAL trans models, BUT even then they were WIRED WRONG AT THE FACTORY.
Pls see my comments on ur other thread.
Cheers
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Old Jun 23, 2023 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RAD4Runner
Hi Keith,
Starter Relay Only Appeared on mid-1986 MANUAL trans models, BUT even then they were WIRED WRONG AT THE FACTORY.
Pls see my comments on ur other thread.
Cheers
Thanks for reply...
After checking further into your replies, I see where the single click I'm hearing is coming from the circuit opening relay for the fuel pump...
[thanks for that information].
Also after re-reading your replies I see that my 1985 doesn't have a starter relay.
Am I right assuming that the ignition switch sends power to the neutral safety switch and then on to the starter?
If so I'm guessing that I'm either needing an ignition switch or maybe a neutral safety switch. And if the ignition switch
activates the circuit opening relay for the fuel pump when turned to start, then it must be working right...especially since as far
as I can tell everything seems to work in ACC position.
I'm going to go with needing a neutral safety switch.
Do you have any info on replacing that switch?
Thanks,
Keith [slowboy]
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Old Apr 10, 2025 | 01:40 PM
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Same problem

Originally Posted by slowboy
Thanks for reply...
After checking further into your replies, I see where the single click I'm hearing is coming from the circuit opening relay for the fuel pump...
[thanks for that information].
Also after re-reading your replies I see that my 1985 doesn't have a starter relay.
Am I right assuming that the ignition switch sends power to the neutral safety switch and then on to the starter?
If so I'm guessing that I'm either needing an ignition switch or maybe a neutral safety switch. And if the ignition switch
activates the circuit opening relay for the fuel pump when turned to start, then it must be working right...especially since as far
as I can tell everything seems to work in ACC position.
I'm going to go with needing a neutral safety switch.
Do you have any info on replacing that switch?
Thanks,
Keith [slowboy]
hey keith I had this problem today and it didn’t start at all. I was wondering if you replaced the nsw and the ignition switch and or if it worked?
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Old Apr 11, 2025 | 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by niko0420
hey keith I had this problem today and it didn’t start at all. I was wondering if you replaced the nsw and the ignition switch and or if it worked?
niko0420...
I ended up putting a relay from battery to starter. Now the starter gets it's power from the battery straight thru the relay directly to the starter.
It doesn't have to go thru the NSS first.

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