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Old 12-13-2008, 02:28 PM
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They bolt on to the existing wheel studs and they supplied nuts and then the wheel bolts on to studs on the spacer so I think I'm good. I've looked all over the web and can't find longer wheel studs anywhere! I guess I'll just keep looking for longer metric studs.
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Are you sticking with aluminum wheels? If not, steel wheels have a much thinner mounting surface and thus require less stud length. Aluminum wheels always have a thick mounting since aluminum needs to be somewhat thick to be strong.
If your truck is a keeper, I'd consider staying away from the spacers on the rear and go with a wider and stronger IFS rear axle. They bolt right up and have bigger brakes. Then use a single pair of spacers for the front to keep the track width even front to rear. You'll gain tire clearance and strength, and the front wheels will not interfere with any brake mods you might consider in the front. (vented rotors, IFS calipers)

I have found that some manufacturers scrimp a little on material. The nice chunck of billet is cut too far down in diameter and doesn't give as big a contact surface for the rims to mate with. Especially important on steel wheels where there is no flat mounting surface on the back of the rim.

Take a look at the fitment of the spacer to the rim off the truck before deciding to use them. Know what you are putting your ride through.
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Do your new spacers have much shorter studs than your toyota studs?

I've had those black spoke (rock crawlers) and they rubbed on my new IFS calipers. Thats what made me buy the spacers.

What kind of rims are you going to stick with?
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The studs on the spacers are fine. It's the stock studs that the spacers bolt on to that I have a problem with. I think they're too short and I can't get a full nut on them.

I went with spacers cuz I liked the look and to help with steering.

I have chrome steel wheels that were on the truck when I bought it. I've got no clue on the brand.
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What brand spacers did you get? Some of them require special nuts that have a threaded portion that goes down inside the spacer.
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how about a hub swap? IMHO, it would be a better long term solution . . . .

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=515697
"Adding extra width to a Toyota 8" solid front axle is fairly simple (without the use of wheel spacers) by just swaping out the Solid Axle hub bodies to IFS hub bodies. Doing this will add approximately ~1.37" on each side which changes the WMS from 55.5" to ~58.25"."
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Originally Posted by fyreandwater
I went with spacers cuz I liked the look and to help with steering.
spacers can't help the steering, they only make it worse. you have increased your scrub radius.

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Originally Posted by 4Crawler
What brand spacers did you get? Some of them require special nuts that have a threaded portion that goes down inside the spacer.
Not sure what brand, I got them off ebay. They came with tapered nuts.
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Originally Posted by Al's Chop Shop
spacers can't help the steering, they only make it worse. you have increased your scrub radius.

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My tires used to hit on my springs. They don't anymore. I'm happy. The truck looks better with a wider stance and I would also think it helps my center of gravity. Used to get tippy on some of those off camber trails in Moab. We'll see next time I go.
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ok, i thought you meant 'ease of steering', not 'steering clearance'.

are you running stock wheels?

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there not stock but close to the same as stock. Some day I may put my 33's on some new 15x10 wheels. I need to look for some stock wheels and narrower tires for winter. My truck sucks on ice with 12.50's. Luckily it's only my backup dd.
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