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Timing chain, do i need a head gasket also?

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Old Dec 4, 2023 | 03:52 PM
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Timing chain, do i need a head gasket also?

I can hear my timing chain starting to go on my 83. My new mechanic said they probably have to do the head gasket also. It this the best practice for timing chains, or should i talk to other mechanics. From google it seems possible without, but increases the chances of a oil leak.


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Old Dec 5, 2023 | 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by starrchild
I can hear my timing chain starting to go on my 83. My new mechanic said they probably have to do the head gasket also. It this the best practice for timing chains, or should i talk to other mechanics. From google it seems possible without, but increases the chances of a oil leak.
its possible according to the internet but so is alot of ˟˟˟˟... id just buy a double chain conversion if you dont already have double chain and a gasket and do it right if your gonna do it gives you a chance to see how everything else is doing up there

its pretty much a rule if the head comes off plan on a new gasket because it likely wont work and youll have to do it anyway....

its 50$ for a new gasket and will save you headaches and mess down the road
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Old Dec 5, 2023 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by starrchild
I can hear my timing chain starting to go on my 83. My new mechanic said they probably have to do the head gasket also. It this the best practice for timing chains, or should i talk to other mechanics. From google it seems possible without, but increases the chances of a oil leak.
the timing cover seals to the head gasket on top and the oil pan on the bottom. The best bet for no leaks when you are done is to replace the head gasket and oil pan gasket at the same time as you install the timing cover. I feel better about trying to save the oil pan gasket than the head gasket, just my opinion though.
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Old Dec 5, 2023 | 09:31 AM
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I agree with the comments above and i have personal experience with head gasket not surviving after the head bolts were loosened. I’d go one step further and disassemble the head for new seals, check guides, inspect and maybe lap the valves while apart- a good ol “valve job”. You can’t get to those parts unless the head is off. More work but beneficial. Good luck
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Old Dec 5, 2023 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by akwheeler
the timing cover seals to the head gasket on top and the oil pan on the bottom. The best bet for no leaks when you are done is to replace the head gasket and oil pan gasket at the same time as you install the timing cover. I feel better about trying to save the oil pan gasket than the head gasket, just my opinion though.
agree. the oil pan gasket is much easier to save and not worry about than the head gasket might wanna add a little RTV/ Gray permatex on the reseal.
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Old Dec 6, 2023 | 02:58 PM
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Good looking truck. Bite the bullet and do it right. The "while you are there" list may seem long but it's better than having to go back into it.
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Old Dec 9, 2023 | 08:28 AM
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Just recently did the t-chain on my 84. Did not even consider disturbing the head gasket. I did however remove the pan to inspect for things that do not belong and to obviously give a little room to get the t-chain cover back up. After a thorough cleaning and a couple of wipes of brake clean on the bottom of the head gasket where it meets the cover, a thin film of sealer went on and reassemble. Let it sit and cure.....it has plenty of time as there is everything else going back together. I did replace the water pump and oil pump at the same time and made sure the oil screen was clean also. What kind of mileage is on the engine would be a deciding factor. If I had say 200k on it I would think 2wice about removal

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Old Dec 9, 2023 | 08:51 AM
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Just recently did the t-chain on my 84. Did not even consider disturbing the head gasket. I did however remove the pan to inspect for things that do not belong and to obviously give a little room to get the t-chain cover back up. After a thorough cleaning and a couple of wipes of brake clean on the bottom of the head gasket where it meets the cover, a thin film of sealer went on and reassemble. Let it sit and cure.....it has plenty of time as there is everything else going back together. I did replace the water pump and oil pump at the same time and made sure the oil screen was clean also.
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