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Old Jun 18, 2011 | 12:51 PM
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Driveline Yoke Hitting Flange Bracket

So, when I went to replace what I thought was just bad ujoints in my front driveline today, I realized that the driveline yoke is hitting at the transfer case end.

I am in need of (cheap) options. I had thought about a double-cardian front drive line out of a newer 4runner from the pick n pull place.

Other thoughts please?
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Old Jun 18, 2011 | 05:17 PM
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Is this the stock front dshaft?

Take some pics please.

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Old Jun 18, 2011 | 05:46 PM
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Yes, front drive shaft. It has a 4" lift, so I figure the angle is too steep (obviously). Just looking for good options that don't cost a ton.





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Old Jun 18, 2011 | 05:51 PM
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you should already have a double cardan--it will be up at the TC flange
hi pinion or cut and turn the knuckles...
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Old Jun 18, 2011 | 05:58 PM
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Or dual cases.

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Old Jun 18, 2011 | 06:04 PM
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^^yep, that is how I fixed mine
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Old Jun 18, 2011 | 06:39 PM
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cutting the knuckles sounds the cheapest, but I assume there is a downside to doing so.

OCD, definitely no double cardian on that bad boy. Are they spendy? Can I convert the stock drive shaft?

no dual cases in my near future, unfortunately.
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ocdropzone
you should already have a double cardan--it will be up at the TC flange
hi pinion or cut and turn the knuckles...
Since I should, but don't, I should theoretically be able to add one, no?

From what I can tell the pinion on the front diff is pitched up, so the truck may have originally had a double cardian at the top?

The rear diff is also pitched with shims, but same setup, just dual u-joint, based on other diff-tcase diagrams I've seen here, I should remove those shims.

Thoughts?
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 12:11 PM
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just get a newer style yoke, notice in the pic how one has longer ears on it that the style yours has. i had the same problem running a single joint on both ends and solved it by using rear shaft yokes and flanges,
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 12:19 PM
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if the ears off the tcase were longer then it can angle more, i used a 95 runner rear shaft for the parts and no longer binds even at full droop
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 12:29 PM
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the 84-95 trucks and 4runners have the absolute best driveline joints when it somes to travel. just get one of those like stated above
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 01:07 PM
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since you are in portland, I would recommend http://drivelinetech.com/home.php.
Brian built my rear driveshaft for me.
website says he is only building new driveshafts, so I am not sure if that means he will not retube and add a CV for you.
somebody replaced your stock shaft for some reason..
here is a pic of my spare stock 1st gen shaft and the rear shaft Brian built for me using an 89 stock rear shaft with the CV out of 2nd Gen 4Runner:

another option would be one from Dave's:
http://www.davezoffroadperformance.c...driveline.html
he doesn't use one for some reason but he has been doing it for so long I figure he knows what he is doing..
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by drokliss
Since I should, but don't, I should theoretically be able to add one, no?

From what I can tell the pinion on the front diff is pitched up, so the truck may have originally had a double cardian at the top?

The rear diff is also pitched with shims, but same setup, just dual u-joint, based on other diff-tcase diagrams I've seen here, I should remove those shims.

Thoughts?
Likely not needed, but easy enough to measure and see:
- http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/Shims.shtml#FAQ1
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 4Crawler
Likely not needed, but easy enough to measure and see:
- http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/Shims.shtml#FAQ1
As I suspected...the rear diff is pointed at the t-case, shouldn't be Guess I ought to fix that whilst I'm mucking about.
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by blake.nemitz
just get a newer style yoke, notice in the pic how one has longer ears on it that the style yours has. i had the same problem running a single joint on both ends and solved it by using rear shaft yokes and flanges,

The driveshaft yoke doesn't need to change, right, just the yoke that bolts to the t-case flange?
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 08:48 AM
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84 joints have the short ears to the best of my knowledge you need third gen rears to get the longer yoke fyi

and yea you will need the flange and the yoke off the d shaft. if you cut the weld off you can pull it out and put it in your front and hammer it in it will be centered, just make sure if you cut yours off, i would cut 3/4 of an inch into the tubing to make up for the linger ear, and weld er in. ive got pics in my album of building mine if you wanna check it out. i have the 5spd with chain drive tcase and it makes for a really short front shaft, i can run up to about 40 before it starts vibin but its a crawler so 4wd on the hwy is not needed
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Old Jun 22, 2011 | 08:49 AM
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and my tcase angle look alot worse than yours.
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 06:02 AM
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Great input, thanks man!
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 06:09 AM
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wasn't another recent guy on here having the same issues?
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