having problems with the rear springs. they seem to short, or the arch is too high. ordered a second pair and the same thing occurs. the hanger on the rear is foling in towards the front of my truck and the leaf is bottoming out on the frame??? PLEASE HELP!!! None of it makes sense to me. called skyjacker and all the measurements are correct for the spring they have listed to fit onto my truck. they also said that the leaf is not meant to settle so how is this supposed to work? any and all help is greatly appreciatied.

 

pictures ?

 

rip it all out and replace with chevy springs

 

i tried to post pics but they are bigger than allowed. basically the rear hanger is horizontal to the ground instead of perpendicular and facing towards the front of the truck, in return when i set my truck on the ground the spring collapses up into the frame and bottoms out on the frame. the stock distance between front leaf mount on rear leaf and rear hanger for rear leaf is 45". the aftermarket spring measured from center of eye to center of eye, no following contour of spring but one straight to the other, is 42". my stock spring is 44.5". how is the lift spring going to reach if it is 3" to short? The only thing i can think of doing is cutting and rewelding the rear mounts
2 inches forward. However, this is supposed to be a bolt in kit and skyjacker is telling me that i should not have to do that. sorry for no pics but im explaining the best i can. it's pretty straight forward on what it is doing just not sure of an easy fix.

 

The spring should flatten out as it compresses.

When you set them down again, put a block of wood between the frame and the shackle to keep it from inverting. Then it should flatten out and go normal.

On a side note, are you running a longer than stock shackle? If its stock length, then that could be another issue.

 

i will try the block of wood. however, once(and if) i get the truck to set without the spring inverting, if my suspension flexes at all and the preasure of the truck is off the spring wont it just invert again? i am running a stock shackle. I called skyjacker and they said that the lift is supposed to work with stock shackles.

 

its most likely that either the front spring mount or the rear shackle mount will need to be moved. is your tire centered in the wheel well now? Most likely the rear shackle mount on the frame will need moved forward to improve shackle angle.

 

are you sure your not trying to install the front springs on the rear?

 

no they are the rear springs and they are installed correctly. i was able to flex the suspension with a pry bar and wedge a piece of 2x4 between the frame and pry bar, did that on both sides at same time. i then lowered the truck to the ground and with the weight of the truck the springs remained flexed enough so the shackles would not collapse. i took it around the block and the first bump i hit the tension went off the springs and the hanger flexed back in toward the front and the spring bottomed out on the frame again. i went back to house and did the same thing however this time i put a bunch of weight in the bed and will leave it overnight. hopefully the springs will settle enough so everything will function properly.

as far as moving the mounting location that is what i will have to do if this does not work. the only problem is this is a "BOLT ON KIT" according to skyjacker. they say i should not have to modify anything as far as cutting and rewelding the mounting locations. they even said that they have sold over 70 of these kits in the past few months and have never heard of this problem. hopefully the springs will settle.

 

I've never heard of anyone ever having this trouble, those Skyjacker kits have been around for over 20 years.
I just measured my springs, the rears are 46" from eye to eye, fronts are 42" and 47" with one wheel sitting in a hole. These are 12+ year old Northwest Offroad springs so they have settled a bit but only a 1/2 inch at the most.

 

I would return it, get your money back and call Trail Gear, All Pro or Marlin Crawler. If Skyjacker cant help you then I would tell them to chew rocks.

On another forum we were just talking about going with companies that specifically build stuff for our rigs as apposed to those that do it all.

 

i agree with going to a company that deals in just toyota. with my toyotas in the past i just used NWOR. however, either they've gotten laisy or changed a bunch of employees in the past 5 years but they are not helpfull at all and i will not do business with them ever again. i was going to order my lift from them but when i tried all i got was the run around. in the past they were extremely helpfull but not anymore.

I was just thinking of returning the kit and going with the 5" lift with crossover steering from all pro. it's only a couple hundered bucks more. i am going to the 4x4 shop that i purchased the lift from today. if they can't tell me how to correct the problem without cutting and welding, which i shouldnt have to do, then im going to order the lift from all pro and return this one. thanks to everyone for the imput it is well appreciated.

 

A couple hundred bucks more for lift + hysteer sounds like a no brainer to me. This push/pull stuff is a PITA, especially with bigger tires and locked front, eh?

 

i bet you put the rears up front by accident....

pull a front leaf and measure it, just to be sure.

Al

 

yea hows the front shackle angle?

 

I would return it before you find out what you did and get that hysteer.

 

after multiple phone calls to skyjacker, and a hour and a half visit to the local 4x4 shop where i purchased the lift, we finally got someone on the phone at skyjacker that knew what they were talking about. seems with the 7" kit i have to cut, move, and reweld my rear mounts forward 1.5-2 inches. the shop i bought it from is awesome and they are letting me borrow the shop tomorrow to fix the problem. about an hour and a half of work and the problem is solved. just a heads up for all those who are thinking of going with a 7" lift with a 1st gen yoda!!!!

The front and rear springs are impossible to get mixed up! front springs have same measurement between center bolt, holds spring pack together, to front and rear eyes. the rear spring is longer from center bolt to rear eye than from center to front eye. fyi

 

with a dual stabilizer up front and 36's its not so much a PITA. I live in florida so most of my wheeling is DEEP MUD!! just how i like it. so i really dont have a need for histeer. Darn glad i found the problem. cant wait to get it fixed and hit the trails. will post all new pics next week in photo gallery so keep an eye out.

 

Thats cool the shop is lettin you fix your rig there. too bad skyjacker did'nt mention the moving of your spring hangers. They should chew rocks for that PITA.

 

yes they should. after this little experience ill only deal with "Toyota Only" vendors or manufacturers