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22R tick/knock at idle and decel

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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 09:33 AM
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I tried pulling each plug wire individually and no difference in noise at all. Definitely seems to be getting a little worse. Got a V8 from a buddy and a turbo tranny. Might just end up going that route.
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 10:43 PM
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i tried to diagnose everything, i cannot figure it out.
yote8082, do you have the metal timing chain guides?
i think this may be the issue as i had no play when i put my block together,.
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 08:12 PM
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nope, no exhaust leak here. I ruled out everything except for the timming components and i did not drop the oil pan yet. Like i said , i have 15,000 miles on it so far, and just on friday i ran a muddy hill peggin 5grand for at least 15 to 20 seconds straight. no issues,
i also drive about 150 to 200 miles a day for work.

the motor is out of my brother in laws beater 2wd 94 truck. he was gonna crush it and i had a itch to pull the motor and stuff it in my truck. the historu on this motor is about 50,000 miles befor i got it, his dad had it rebuilt by a local shop. new pistons and aftermarket head, used block. it was bored .020 when i opened it up so i decided to just re ring it hone it and put new bearings in it.
i also did a port and polish on the head my self, i took quite a bit out of the seats in order to smooth it into the ports. could this do it?
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 08:55 PM
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I do have the metal backed guides but checked them and no wear through the plastic liner. Definitely not exhaust leak. It's internal. Probably just gonna run it for a while until I do the V8 swap. It's basicly my play toy so think it will be a fun project. I really do appreciate all the input though. Will probably go through engine again since it's probably the start of piston slap if anybody near Eureka,CA is looking for a cheap pumped 22R hit me up. Will post when motor is ready to go. Thanks everybody.
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 07:04 AM
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its funny you guys swear it couldnt be bottom end, my engine was giving me the same problems. At idle and deceleration, it would give a nice knock, almost sounds like a "jake break", with the pitch of the sound bogging down as the rpms decrease. Well, i havent taken it apart yet because im out to sea, but im dead sure its a main bearing and/or rod bearings. Either or, for me, its a complete engine rebuild. I bought a reuild and resurfaced head a couple days ago complete for only 150. Gonna throw that on there i think, along with re-surfaced crank (depends how bad it is) and new rods and pistons. Does anyone out there think this is a stupid idea? i guess what im asking, is, rebuild motor i have or buy new one? thanks for any input
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 04:56 PM
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Well,I have 30,000+ miles on my rebuild. Seems as if I run. Thicker oil or right after I. Start it and I drive in a parking lot, in gear deceleration it clacks so bad and sounds like a rod knock. But it hauls but and drives/sounds great oterwise on all other conditions. So ill keep driving it till it breaks then swap in a different long block (i'd hate to rebuild it and do the same thing. I have so much time in the port and polish but id rather not take the chance)
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 07:33 PM
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Mine sounds the same! haha
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Old Feb 27, 2013 | 05:34 PM
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3 years later..... What was the source of the noise. I have the exact same noise. Sounds like a Powerstroke diesel at idle. Smooths out at about 1300 rpm.
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Old Jul 7, 2014 | 07:03 PM
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Anything? Mine just started these exact symptoms yesterday. the knock gets less loud as rpms go down.. No problems accelerating, but on decel.. I can hear it from inside..

I adjusted the valves to spec, and it actually got worse??
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Old Jul 8, 2014 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by jcm151
Anything? Mine just started these exact symptoms yesterday. the knock gets less loud as rpms go down.. No problems accelerating, but on decel.. I can hear it from inside..

I adjusted the valves to spec, and it actually got worse??
Mine was doing the exact same thing. I got under it and had someone rev it up and sounded like the tap was coming from the clutch. I pulled the trans and clutch was shot and two of the springs in the center of the clutch were loose. I could work them up and down with one finger and it made the sound we are all talking about.
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Old Jul 9, 2014 | 06:59 PM
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I am really confused, I tried the trick of pulling the spark plug wires, a cylinder at a time.. Sound didn't go away..

I tried adjusting valves to .008 .012 .. Made it worse.. So I set them back to what they were.. .007 and .010..

I was having some some clutch issues, but I replaced the slave cylinder and that went away..

So I am kinda stumped.
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Old Jul 10, 2014 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by jcm151
I am really confused, I tried the trick of pulling the spark plug wires, a cylinder at a time.. Sound didn't go away..

I tried adjusting valves to .008 .012 .. Made it worse.. So I set them back to what they were.. .007 and .010..

I was having some some clutch issues, but I replaced the slave cylinder and that went away..

So I am kinda stumped.
have you gotten under the truck and had someone rev the engine to see if the sound is coming from the bell housing?
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Old Jul 10, 2014 | 03:40 PM
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I have not, but I did turn up the idle pretty high, and I still can't tell..

Edit*

My engine seems to be running rather hot compared to normal temps.. (It is summer though, so maybe I am imagining that)..

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