anyone know anywhere in Western NY or Central NY to go wheelin....with out gettin shot at......or wanna go out with a couple of us? Spring air is making me wannna gooooooooooo

 

Where abouts?

James

 

you mean theres land with out pavment in new york?

 

Paragon and Rauch Creek are the only places I know of, but they are both in PA. I'm from the Binghamton area and drive the 2 hours to Paragon to wheel. I haven't found anywhere to go that isn't on private land.

 

I have said it before, but you guys should really just form a chapter of 4roc or ttora, you will be surprised how many people come out and join. Some one of you just needs to do it, there are always threads on here and ttora asking about ny wheelers. Also, once you do, look into the EC4WDA, the East Coast 4 Wheel Drive Association. www.ec4wda.org. They do a lot of work with local government and private landowners to get access to land to use. Through them you also gain a membership in the Blue Ribbon Coalition. Both NE4ROC and TTORA-NE are members and it has already paid off big for us, we have access to so many more legal places to wheel, it is awesome.

 

^^^^ yup. someone stand up and do it! its much easier than you think.

 

Seriously, if Lee and I can both manage to run clubs, anyone can do it!

 

I had a website up for a while for the NY chapter of 4roc but it never saw any action and only had about 4 "members".

I'm happy to do the site again, but I'm hesitant to pay for a domain name/hosting space.

What about a more general off-road club?

 

Well, there is the matter of advertising it, I know I bring a lot of members to 4roc and ttora because I see them on here, YT, TTORA, 4x4Wire, etc, and drag them in. As I recall, Lee posted up a thread on here about ne4roc and gained a ton of members from it. You really have to market it. If you did one through ttora, they will host a forum for you on ttora's site and link to it from the national forum, which helps people to find it. I am sure a general off road club would work too, either way, it takes some effort, it takes time for a club to accumulate a good core membership that is active on the forum and wheels regularly, you will get a lot of webwheelers, but that is to be expected. Some advertising, some patience, and some post-whoring on your own forum and before you know it, you have a whole club.

 

You make some excellent points but it is very hard to gather people around here to off-road as it is let alone Toyota freaks like ourselves. Not many places to wheel here since most of it is private property. Like Jackson said, we have to travel a couple of hours to wheel legally. I don't mind that once in awhile but everytime I want to wheel I have to drive 2 hours? Not going to happen. Just trying to get people to go and wheel down there is a pain sometimes. I think Jackson has to look at overall members rather than just Toyota so we could have a better chance to get people together to wheel.

James

 

Paragon runs forums on their website - you spend much time there? They have reasonable traffic, but their site sucks, and you can't post pictures on the forums. It's nice because there isn't a lot of drama and not many web wheelers, but there also isn't the same... I guess passion would be a good word for it. While we all love our yotas, we also love to wheel and be getting dirty on the trail. Paragon is kind of like that happy medium between Yotatech and Pirate.

 

Im in school down in Olean, but go back ta Syracuse every so often...last time I went out was when the weather first started turnin....found a sweet place a lil north of olean...and a shotgun going off then getting chased out...so pretty much anywhere between olean and syracuse...especially the two of em...I wouldnt mind joinin a group but i have no idea how to go about startin one er anythin...i just wanna wheel

 

I just formed an Ohio Chapter of TTORA - not much to it really, and there are probably people already there you just need to get together. It surprises the heck out of me that there's not a NY chapter...anyways, here's all the info you need to start a chapter:

http://www.ttora.com/sub.php?p=chapterinfo/main

 

The forum didn't work right last time I was there. Paragon is cool but you have to drive 2 hours two wheel. It is kind of crazy that we are surrounded by hills and nature yet we can't find one trail to go on. This is what pisses me off the most. If your up to Paragon this year and you can find some people, I'am all for it! I may have a couple of people who would want to go but they aren't Toyota people.

James