live4soccer7

I have found the reason why my parking brake does not work. It's not the cable, I already adjusted that. My rear brakes don't even work. They are worn out.

I took the truck to less schwab to get the inspection done, but the main reason was to get the key lugs off my wheels so I could remove the tires/wheels myself b/c I do not have the lug key.

Here is what the quote sheet says I need
1/2 ton rear drum brake job..... lol

I need a set of shoes
set of hardware
whl cyl
9365 brake drum

While I have to get all of this done and replaced, what are you guys' thoughts on a reasonable place to order this stuff from to get this all in tip top shape?

Any suggestions for reasonable upgrades?

Anything else you can think of that should be replaced in regards to the brakes or things associated w/the breaks while i'm at it?

swapped89

you can get all that at a local auto parts store for no more than a couple hundred bucks. and its easy to do. As long as your drums come off easy its no big deal just clean everything well with brake clean. i dont know of any upgrades unless you want to put disc brakes in the back but then you gotta find a different type of e-brake. and that requires welding a lil fab mixing and matching parts etc. and more money.

live4soccer7

nah, I think i'll stay w/the stock setup then. I don't have the time to be fabbin something up right now. This is my winter vehicle. Will the auto parts store be able to look up the particular parts for my truck?

I'm looking these parts:

Shoes (set)
Hardware set
Wheel Cylinder X 2
9365 Brake Drum X 2

What do they mean by this?
523 Non-Asbestos Redlined Brake Shoes

Also what are they referring to when they say 9365 Brake Drum (the number)
And 523?

Thanks for the quick response. This forum is great. I have learned a ton and been able to do all the work myself instead of paying a mechanic.

frankentoyota

cant the brake drum be machined? i thought thats what they do with them? other than that all at a local auto store.. they should look it up.. if they have any customer service ability.. got all my stuff at bumper to bumper(canada).

live4soccer7

no, it can't be machined because of the wear on it. It's below the allotted amount. I have to get new ones.

live4soccer7

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyot...spagenameZWD1V

Here's the wheel cylinder off of ebay. Much lower price than what was quoted.
Thoughts ideas on it?

live4soccer7

I'm just gonna go to napa instead of searching for all the parts.

I'm still not sure what they mean by this though, anyone know?
523 Non-Asbestos Relined Brake Shoes

bktaco

You do not need a hardware set, if that is referring to the springs etc. They should all work just fine. just get new shoes, drums if you need them, a tiny package of break grease, and a can of break fluid. Do one side at a time so that you can see how to put it back together from the other example.

I'm told a spring tool makes life easy. I did it with vise grips.

If your brake cylinders look bad, just replace them while you are in there.

Adjusting the brakes is probably the hardest part, just trying to get the art of it right. I think, adjust the star wheel out until the drum has a little resistance going on. then they will wear quickly to the correct setting.

Then again, I'm no brake expert.

live4soccer7

wrong thread... oops

85Froder

les schwab, HA! those guys gave me a $800 quote to do all my brakes, $250 of it was just for my rears...i went to my local auto parts store and ordered 2 wheel cylinders new pads and a new spring set all for my rear and it was $62. just follow instructions in repair manual, ive never done drums before and it took me about 4-5 hours total and as far as i can tell they are workin fine. i do recommend a tool to get the main springs back on, they were a big pain in the ass for me using vicegrips and a tiny hook tool. but good luck man.

live4soccer7

thanks, I appreciate it. I'll post up some pics and stuff when I get the brakes going.

drew303

you know all Schwab does to get the wheel locks off is use a socket and a hammer =P

Anyway, the numbers are just part numbers in there system. You can get everything you need at any decent parts store. Be careful with getting new brake cylinders. I had one come faulty out of the box, talk about frustrating.

You may or may not need a new hardware kit, would be nice if the kits came with the adjusting rod n screw ... the dealio with the star nut that adjust the shoes outward to compensate for wear.

I haven't found a decent spring tool that works worth a damn with our drum brake setups. I just use pliers and muscle. To get the main spring (upper one) one I do this while i have the shoes on the ground and the middle adjusting rod in place. Install it on the backing plate/around the axle flange etc.... then a few curse words and sore muscles later you get the lower spring on =)

And use brake cleaner, not compressed air to clean anything. Better safe than sorry imo

goodluck

desertcamper67

Use a return spring tool if you can get one. It will save time and maybe an eye. Its a leverage thing. Snap On makes a great one but you can find a similar one at most parts stores. If you try to wrestle the assembly onto the backing plate around the axle flange be careful not to pop out a wheel cylinder cup.

nmtoy

http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/maintenance/rearbrakes/

live4soccer7

this just gets better. Thanks for the link. It will help a ton.

TrikeKid

I replaced everything from the backing plates out on my rear axle for about $200 from a local brake place. Hardware kits are cheap, and worth it IMO just to have everything new.

live4soccer7

sounds good. The weather is about 10 degrees here and I'm going to wait for about a week for it to get to about 30 so I won't freeze my ace off because I don't have a heated place to work on it. Thanks for all the help and suggestions everyone.

desertcamper67

Nevermind the return spring tool. I was picturing a different set-up. You can use a good pair of dikes for the big spring under the adjuster and a pair of straight slip joint pliers for the hold down springs.

If you do change the hardware in the brakes, check and make sure you've got the right spring for under the adjuster. They could be side specific.
Hint: if the springs are the same color, they will fit either side. If they are different colors then there is a left and right.
Thats my experience

live4soccer7

thanks for the tips