1984 4Runner Shackles - Nothing Fancy

04 Rocko Taco · 10-11-2007, 06:04 AM

I copied this thread from my post over HERE

I decide to make some lift shackles for 1984 Runner. These things are 8" between the holes (2.25" lift) and they are pretty freakin big, I think if they sit weird or anything, I will cut them down to 6" (1.75" of lift), which is the biggest size, I could find commercially available.
I started with some 1/4" X 1.5" Steel Flat Stock. I then measured for the holes, added about a 1/2" to each end for strength and cut them out on my angle grinder with a thin (.045) cutoff wheel. I then took them over to my drill press and drilled out the 1/2" holes for the bolts, I then took them back to the angle grinder and bench grinder (and wire wheel) to round off the edges, and soften up the look a bit, and then painted!
I'll let the pics explain better...
Let me know what you think.

Cutting them out of the stock... (NOTE: See the "Safety Goggles" - Proto Anti-Fog Competition Anti-Glare Paintball Mask. lol)

Drilling out the holes... (NOTE: David, you know you want the drill press)

Grinding them round...

Finished?...

Painted!

Now, I just had 6 more to do...

And all it took was these simple tools...

(Note the OME struts in the rear right, and the OEM 4Runner Coils in the rear left. Pack Rat!!)

Thanks for reading, let me know what you think.

Just for comparison sake, I am posting the measurement of the center of my fender wells, (from ground through hub, to fender) from before and will post the results once they are installed.

BEFORE:
Front Driver - 35.25"
Front Passenger - 35.25"
Rear Driver - 32"
Rear Passenger - 32.25"

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jagger_snitt · 10-11-2007, 06:13 AM

Those shackles look great and you never know about those stray paintballs!

04 Rocko Taco · 10-11-2007, 08:28 AM

Okay guys.... what do we think about bracing these? They are pretty long... I have a couple of design ideas, but lets hear yours...

Kaleb · 10-11-2007, 08:35 AM

I would have used thicker metal.

X2 on bracing.

4Crawler · 10-11-2007, 09:12 AM

Yes, I generally use 3/8"x2" flat bar for my shackles. I recommend bracing them when 2" longer than stock, especiall up front, for stability:
- http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/...es.shtml#FAQ11

CJM · 10-11-2007, 09:54 AM

You seem to have never drilled metal, reason I say this is b/c your smoking the bit and ruining the temper of the metal. Use lubricant, I like pb blaster or plain old motor oil. Not knocking ya, just some good FYI..

Also I woulda used thicker metal too and brace them.

jjrgr21 · 10-11-2007, 09:58 AM

why would you use a penetrator for drilling. and its supposed to smoke when using a lube. i've got some kind of wax the local machine shop guys gave me and it works pretty good.

CJM · 10-11-2007, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjrgr21

why would you use a penetrator for drilling. and its supposed to smoke when using a lube. i've got some kind of wax the local machine shop guys gave me and it works pretty good.

Just cause its what I had laying around, penetrator oil seemed to work fine. I have had drills smoke, but not like that. I take my time, my grandfather taught me to take your time, if it begins to smoke you need to back off a bit and let it be otherwise you can ruin the metal or the bit easily.

I trust a guy who has been a machinist for most of his adult life.

Greg_Canada · 10-11-2007, 10:07 AM

I always heard if you take youre time you'll ruin the bit, so u have to put some pressure on it and "help" it cut. Dont just let it sit there and heat up. Seems to work good for me.

SLC97SR5 · 10-11-2007, 10:15 AM

Nice Chris, now lets see the comparision pictures. I'm very interested to hear what you gained off-road.

CJM · 10-11-2007, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg_Canada

I always heard if you take youre time you'll ruin the bit, so u have to put some pressure on it and "help" it cut. Dont just let it sit there and heat up. Seems to work good for me.

Well not take your sweetass time, just dont make the thing violent smoke is what I was told.

04 Rocko Taco · 10-11-2007, 10:18 AM

Thats WD-40 smoking, not the metal, or the drill bit, I had a little tiny bit of 3 in 1 machine oil I started with, but WD40 is all I had to finish up. lol. Thats what is smoking.

Adam F · 10-11-2007, 04:17 PM

Also running your drill press at a lower speed helps with cutting metal.

Kaleb · 10-11-2007, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJM

You seem to have never drilled metal, reason I say this is b/c your smoking the bit and ruining the temper of the metal. Use lubricant, I like pb blaster or plain old motor oil. Not knocking ya, just some good FYI..

Also I woulda used thicker metal too and brace them.

I've never seen a bit smoked without lube. Bits can only smoke with lube. This is because there is nothing to burn when you are drilling metal. You can smoke a bit drilling wood fairly easy, but not metal to metal.

CJM · 10-11-2007, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaleb

I've never seen a bit smoked without lube. Bits can only smoke with lube. This is because there is nothing to burn when you are drilling metal. You can smoke a bit drilling wood fairly easy, but not metal to metal.

Musta been the drill bits or something, cause they heated up without lube and smoked like nuts.

04 Rocko Taco · 10-11-2007, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam F

Also running your drill press at a lower speed helps with cutting metal.

Yeah had it down to 620 RPM, thats the lowest spindle on the drill press.

**waskillywabbit** · 10-11-2007, 08:22 PM

HSS drill bits...I use them all the time dry and at the proper rpms no need for lube.

How much lift you trying to get out of those shackles? I got a set of 3" lift shackles sitting on a shelf somewhere collecting dust.

I would use 3/8" plate as well...as 1/4" is just too flimsy.

10-11-2007, 06:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
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10-11-2007, 08:28 AM	#3 (permalink)
04 Rocko Taco Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 4,070	Okay guys.... what do we think about bracing these? They are pretty long... I have a couple of design ideas, but lets hear yours... __________________ -Chris Tread Lightly! 04 Double Cab PreRunner. 3.4 - Auto 84 4Runner 4WD. 22R - 5 spd Lifted, Locked, 33x12.50 Disclaimer:My Photobucket is being revamped. If there are broken links, shoot me a PM. Thanks. ~Chris Great Toyota Tech

10-11-2007, 08:35 AM	#4 (permalink)
Kaleb Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oregon City, OR Posts: 635	I would have used thicker metal. X2 on bracing. __________________ MY BUILD

10-11-2007, 09:12 AM	#5 (permalink)
4Crawler Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Posts: 7,828	Yes, I generally use 3/8"x2" flat bar for my shackles. I recommend bracing them when 2" longer than stock, especiall up front, for stability: - http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/...es.shtml#FAQ11 __________________ 1985 Toyota 4Runner SR-5, 22REC engine, dual t-cases, 4.88 gears, dual ARBs, 33x10.50 BFGs or 35x12.50 MTRs r.c.brown@ieee.org TruckEditor@tlca.org Project: 4Crawler 4Crawler OffRoad Gettin'Off 4WD Club

10-11-2007, 09:54 AM	#6 (permalink)
CJM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Central NJ Posts: 4,561	You seem to have never drilled metal, reason I say this is b/c your smoking the bit and ruining the temper of the metal. Use lubricant, I like pb blaster or plain old motor oil. Not knocking ya, just some good FYI.. Also I woulda used thicker metal too and brace them. __________________ 96' T100 SR5 4x4, ISR mod, Custom ABS snorkel, KC 57's Hella optilux el cheapo backup lights. Cobra 19III CB, Firestick 4ft antenna, Bilstein shocks. Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. Last edited by CJM; 10-11-2007 at 09:56 AM.

10-11-2007, 09:58 AM	#7 (permalink)
jjrgr21 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,520	why would you use a penetrator for drilling. and its supposed to smoke when using a lube. i've got some kind of wax the local machine shop guys gave me and it works pretty good. __________________ 2003 4WD TRD Tacoma 1986 4Runner

10-11-2007, 10:07 AM	#9 (permalink)
Greg_Canada Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 812	I always heard if you take youre time you'll ruin the bit, so u have to put some pressure on it and "help" it cut. Dont just let it sit there and heat up. Seems to work good for me. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/1147271/1 My 1989 Toyota 4runner

10-11-2007, 10:15 AM	#10 (permalink)
SLC97SR5 Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 392	Nice Chris, now lets see the comparision pictures. I'm very interested to hear what you gained off-road.

10-11-2007, 10:18 AM	#12 (permalink)
04 Rocko Taco Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 4,070	Thats WD-40 smoking, not the metal, or the drill bit, I had a little tiny bit of 3 in 1 machine oil I started with, but WD40 is all I had to finish up. lol. Thats what is smoking. __________________ -Chris Tread Lightly! 04 Double Cab PreRunner. 3.4 - Auto 84 4Runner 4WD. 22R - 5 spd Lifted, Locked, 33x12.50 Disclaimer:My Photobucket is being revamped. If there are broken links, shoot me a PM. Thanks. ~Chris Great Toyota Tech

10-11-2007, 04:17 PM	#13 (permalink)
Adam F Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cincinnati Ohio Posts: 2,397	Also running your drill press at a lower speed helps with cutting metal. __________________ 88 4Runner. 350 V8, R150 5-speed. SAS, 36" TSL's, elocker rear

10-11-2007, 08:22 PM	#17 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,548	HSS drill bits...I use them all the time dry and at the proper rpms no need for lube. How much lift you trying to get out of those shackles? I got a set of 3" lift shackles sitting on a shelf somewhere collecting dust. I would use 3/8" plate as well...as 1/4" is just too flimsy. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

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