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my91Runner · 10-29-2009, 07:09 PM

This is my first toyota. I got a 91 4runner it is lifted 5" with 35" tires. Iy has a 4.3 Chevy in it with a turbo 350 trans. My question is it does not have steering stabilizers on it at all. When you go over a bumper it is all over the place. Would a stabilizer fix this problem. Also it has no sway bar on it. Is that normal?

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my91Runner · 10-29-2009, 07:10 PM

4rnr · 10-29-2009, 09:41 PM

Pretty typical of a POS 5" IFS lift, especially if it has been driven around for....maybe a couple years, and has been wheeled.

my91Runner · 10-30-2009, 12:03 PM

So what to do to fix?

4Crawler · 10-30-2009, 12:09 PM

Well, you could start with checking for worn components; tie rod ends, idler arm, ball joints, etc. If that is all OK, try putting a steering stabilizer back on and some sway bars with extended end links to restore them to the stock orientation will probably be a good idea.

muddpigg · 10-30-2009, 12:10 PM

Trouble shoot the front end. Factory FSM will tell you how. so will the books, chilton/haynes.

Wheelingnoob · 10-30-2009, 12:11 PM

Get a steering stabilizer (probably not the problem but will help), chack the Idler arm for play (bet this is a problem) ball joints and TRE's. Those are the things that always made my truck feel loose and worn out. Each time I replaced them it was good till the next wheeling trip then it was idler arm busing time again.

muddpigg · 11-01-2009, 09:55 PM

I've got upper and lower ball joints if you find yourself in the market. Was going to replace mine but found a heck of a deal on a solid axle and decided not to put them on.
x2 part number K9587 amd x2 K9482
I chose Moog cause they were greasible. May an offer. I'm going to put them back in the classifieds so pm if interested.

my91Runner · 11-03-2009, 05:55 PM

Had a friend look at it. It has week leaf springs in the front. When you turn the tires you can see them flex and twist. I just have to find a place to get stock height springs for the front.

whokrz · 11-03-2009, 06:28 PM

It sounds like your 4runner has a solid axle swap. You probably have 48 inch springs in the front. They are measured eye to eye. You could probably make your own spring pack by removing and adding leafs until you have it like you want. It is hard to say with out seeing pictures of your suspension.
Make sure the leaf springs bolts and the u-bolts are tight. You could also check the wheel and trunnion bearings to make sure they are not loose.

my91Runner · 11-03-2009, 06:35 PM

I will take a picture in the morning. This is my first toyota so i have no clue on what is stock and what is not. So bare with me. Thank you all for your help.

10-29-2009, 09:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,469	Pretty typical of a POS 5" IFS lift, especially if it has been driven around for....maybe a couple years, and has been wheeled. __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

10-30-2009, 12:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
4Crawler Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Posts: 7,832	Well, you could start with checking for worn components; tie rod ends, idler arm, ball joints, etc. If that is all OK, try putting a steering stabilizer back on and some sway bars with extended end links to restore them to the stock orientation will probably be a good idea. __________________ 1985 Toyota 4Runner SR-5, 22REC engine, dual t-cases, 4.88 gears, dual ARBs, 33x10.50 BFGs or 35x12.50 MTRs r.c.brown@ieee.org TruckEditor@tlca.org Project: 4Crawler 4Crawler OffRoad Gettin'Off 4WD Club

10-30-2009, 12:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
muddpigg Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: injured and stateside :( Posts: 1,395	Trouble shoot the front end. Factory FSM will tell you how. so will the books, chilton/haynes. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqtr_RvR3sY Balljoints for sale. Open to trades and offers. http://www.yotatech.com/f11/ball-joi.../#post51278784

10-30-2009, 12:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
Wheelingnoob Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Surrey, BC Posts: 267	Get a steering stabilizer (probably not the problem but will help), chack the Idler arm for play (bet this is a problem) ball joints and TRE's. Those are the things that always made my truck feel loose and worn out. Each time I replaced them it was good till the next wheeling trip then it was idler arm busing time again. __________________ 93 2dr 4runner "overland build" www.overlandcanada.com 89 Supra Built 2jz swap,T67 DBB and a Vipec V88.

11-01-2009, 09:55 PM	#8 (permalink)
muddpigg Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: injured and stateside :( Posts: 1,395	I've got upper and lower ball joints if you find yourself in the market. Was going to replace mine but found a heck of a deal on a solid axle and decided not to put them on. x2 part number K9587 amd x2 K9482 I chose Moog cause they were greasible. May an offer. I'm going to put them back in the classifieds so pm if interested. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqtr_RvR3sY Balljoints for sale. Open to trades and offers. http://www.yotatech.com/f11/ball-joi.../#post51278784

10-29-2009, 07:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
my91Runner Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5

10-30-2009, 12:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
my91Runner Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5	So what to do to fix?

11-03-2009, 05:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
my91Runner Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5	Had a friend look at it. It has week leaf springs in the front. When you turn the tires you can see them flex and twist. I just have to find a place to get stock height springs for the front.

11-03-2009, 06:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
whokrz Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Suisun City, California Posts: 351	It sounds like your 4runner has a solid axle swap. You probably have 48 inch springs in the front. They are measured eye to eye. You could probably make your own spring pack by removing and adding leafs until you have it like you want. It is hard to say with out seeing pictures of your suspension. Make sure the leaf springs bolts and the u-bolts are tight. You could also check the wheel and trunnion bearings to make sure they are not loose. __________________ 1990 4runner, 22re, R151, 4.7, 5.29s, E-locker front, Lock-Rite rear, 37" MTRs, 51" rears all around Trail Reviews http://www.gentryoffroad.com Toyota Factory Service Manuals http://ncttora.com/fsm/index.html

11-03-2009, 06:35 PM	#11 (permalink)
my91Runner Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5	I will take a picture in the morning. This is my first toyota so i have no clue on what is stock and what is not. So bare with me. Thank you all for your help. Last edited by my91Runner; 11-03-2009 at 06:47 PM.

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