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VW Diesel Build Up
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wow, good job man.. did the car come with a 3vze?, alll be watchin this one forsure
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You go man....we are watching. Bet you will get 30+ mpg on the freeway with sensible driving. May want to turn up that turbo after the boogers are worked out of the transplant.
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wow...all i gotta say is wow! looks like a good time. hey, do us a favor and be as liberal as you can taking pictures, especially of all your fab work like the pilot bushing and adapter plate and stuff.
do you have the link to the zuki site? how well will the gearing of your petrol tranny match up to the diesel motor? any thoughts on that? looks good man, definitely keeping an eye on this one! |
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Here are the links to the other guys:
http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content/topic,48503.0.html http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...ota+conversion The pictures are screwed on both of them now though because they are old. I only buy 22re trucks so that is what came out of the truck. The gearing in the truck is the standard 4:10,s. I cruse at 65 right now at 3000rpm. The diesel runs much the same in the jetta, a bit lower about 2800 at 65 so it will be a perfect fit. I am going to put a Garret T3 turbo on (current is a KKK K03 turbo). The K03 is small but good for lots of boost(20psi) at 2000rpm or so but the T3 is bigger and has a big hit at about 3000rpm so it will be perfect for on the highway and stuff. Here are some more pics. The 95 Cab, (looks good eh.............) ![]() Fully rebuilt 22RE that has no KM, pulled it out after changing my mind and going to the diesel. ![]() Custom (that means home made) single drive shaft, not sure if it is going to work as I never drove with it. It has little to no runout but was made with 1/8th wall tube so very heavy. ![]() Spare K03 turbo, a T3 is twice the size. ![]() Doner car, anyone wants the body let me know, in very good shape. ![]() Engine that is going in the truck ![]() Temp bushing made of Alum to setup my adapter. You can see the funny bolt pattern on the VW crank. One bolt is not evenly spaced. I have to intex the TOyota flywheel to make this pattern inbetween the current toyota pattern. ![]() Here is the Oilite bushings I made. I made 3 because if this works out I am going to put one in the wifes 4runner. ![]() So there is some more pics of the startup. I will take as many as I can. I am going to try and use the stock toyota engine mounts and locations if possible. |
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Nice work. I love my 2001 TDi Jetta. The truck seems heavy for that engine tho. I know others have done it but how did it affect acceleration? Especially on hills I don't think my TDi could pull my 4Runner well.
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my friend has a built 97tdi and it is a beast i think it'll be fine in that truck. awesome project!
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Well the truck is lighter then a runner. The stock 1.9 is 75HP and 110ft torque I think. Stock 22re is 114HP and 140ft/lb torque. I know I can get over 100HP out of the 1.9 easy so the torque will go with it and I think will surpass the 140ft/lb the 22re has. Remember the car is geared taller because it is a car.
Don't get me wrong this is not going to be a rocket ship. I will be happy with matched performance with the 22RE. I think this is achievable that is why I started this project. I will try my best to describe how the truck feels when it is running for others to judge for themselves. I am happy with the power and torque of the 22re and some think it is a huge dog. To each their own. I am worried though because the engine is about 4 inches shorter and the pistons are tiny compaired to a 22re but we are talking DIESEL POWER MAN!!! I will just boost it through the moon and see what happends, if it is lacking that much power. Last edited by Flash319; 01-19-2008 at 01:25 PM. |
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get a fat waste gate.
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thanks for the update! when do you get to pull the motor out of the vw? did you get the body off the truck today?
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The body comes off tomorrow. The jetta engine comes out once I get the frame and stuff ready for it. I want to paint up the frame a bit. Then when I pull the diesel I have to fix some oil leaks and clean it up. I also have to check on the crank pully because these engine are known for throwing crank pullies and destroying heads when this happends because the timing belt jumps. I have a small garage so I have to do this in stages incase I need to fix a daily driver.
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dubs have awesome 4 bangers.I don't think u will be disappointed if u get the turbo and a software upgrade,like the APR stage 2 kit or a similar tune from ABD tuning.I've been told 200pounds of torque isn't that much to ask with mild mods to that setup.my brother has an 02 gas power 1.8T and it makes 250 with an APR stage 1 kit and 007 forge diverter valve on the stock turbo,130mph before you even know it.I look forward to future installments.
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man o man sounds like its going to be a very fun truck but man lol wanna do mine? i want to do one too but no money for the parts needed to do i will be watching this though!!!
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TnactsuJ the 1.9 TD is not a TDI. It is an indirect injection diesel (IDI) with no computer, all mechanical. One wire and you are running. These engines were mostly sold in Canada from 94-98. The US had the TDI as soon as it came out (95 or 96 I think). The TDI's are direct injection (no pre combustion chamber, explosion right on the piston). That may be an upgrade in the future but you can get high numbers with an IDI just the same.
Here is a shout out to the guys on VW diesel site. http://www.vwdiesel.net/ Learned a ton from them. Last edited by Flash319; 01-20-2008 at 06:52 AM. |
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one wire and you're running? that sounds amazing! how easy are they to tune with the mechanical set up? what kind of changes can you make? i assume a/f ratio, maybe airflow...what else? very interesting.
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Diesels don't care to much about air/fuel ratio. There is no butterfly/vacuum, all the air that it can suck or get forced in. So the more fuel you give it the more power you get (to a point then you start getting a lot of black smoke and very high EGT). Fuel delivery determines the RPM not air like in a gas. Most adjustments made to a diesel are amount of fuel per injection and duration and amount of boost from turbo. Then all the usual stuff that gassers have like porting and exhaust mods.
Adjustments are made to the pump buy turning adjustment screws and have some internals in the injection pump changed for more fuel at different times. Once you learn how a diesel injection pump works you can really do a lot of tuning. |
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wow i didnt know that about them cool cool
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GO TEAM LAZY!! my name is ALLAN yeah its a 22re 5-speed 4wd 1987 4runner with a cam, snorkel, welded rear Quote:
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thanks for the info flash...i don't know a whole lot about diesels and how they work. i'm excited to see it progress and am especially interested in the tuning. can't wait till you get there!
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Instead of grafting the Toyota flywheel to the VW engine, wouldn't be simpler to use the VW flywheel and pressure plate and then sandwich a Toyota disc in between? I'm totally unfamiliar with the particulars of VW engines, but this is the most common way of connecting unmatched engine/tranny combos in swaps.
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The clutch on a VW is quite wierd. They engage through a push rod in the center of the input shaft. The shaft runs through the trans to a leaver that connects through a cable to the clutch pedel. I also have to use the starter from the Toyota because they bolt to the toyota transmission so I need the flywheel anyway. The VW starter bolts to the trans as well and is a different mounting.
Not a big job anyway to put some new holes in the toy flywheel. I want this to be as much Toyota as possible too. |
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They just did this same engine into their project Samurai on Extreme 4x4 last weekend. Sounds like a solid swap, but they rated the horsepower numbers a little lower than you did. Might possibly be a different year.
They had nothing bad to say about that engine what so ever... They did a veggie conversion on it. With all of the restaurants around here talk of that swap always gets the wheels turning. Free gas is such a turn on... Keep us posted on the swap.
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The Suzuki guys usually put the 1.6L (same engine pretty much) in because they are very easy and cheap to get. Plus the Suzuki is much smaller then a truck so they perform good for them.
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Well I got the body off tonight in the freezing cold. Next is to bolt the engine block to the trans and make some mounts.
![]() ![]() ![]() And if anyone else wants to make an adapter plate here is the layout for it. Just don't sell any if you make them. Information should be free and if someone wants to wip one up on CNC send one to me!! The plate is 3/8 thick.![]() Flywheel layout. The center must be bored out as the stock toyota is 40mm or something. The flywheel bolts are a weired M10x1.00. Very fine thread. (EDIT) you must swap the 48 and 72 degrees. The offset hole is closer to the right side hole not to the left.!!!!!!!!!
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nice layouts man looks like ou really really really know what your doing and wanna get this done lol i wanna ride man!!!!!
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hey and if you really wanna save money, you can run it on mcdonalds waste oil.... diesels were designed to run on peanut oil... it works great at about a 85% diesel 15% oil ratio. plus it smells like french fries. yummy
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