86 4Runner What engine swap should I go with??

rickybobby012889 · 10-24-2007, 01:54 PM

Iam just about fed up with not being able to keep with highway traffic because my 22re wont go no harder..Dont get me wrong i think the toyota engines are the best out there but i was thinking of going to a V8 But i need to know what you people think would be the best engine to go with and what kinds of problems am i going to run into mainly how iam going to make this work..

gilby4runner · 10-24-2007, 01:55 PM

what about regearing? Cheaper option. I see your running 33's. Gearing would make a big difference in your ablility on the HWY.

fillsrunner4 · 10-24-2007, 02:01 PM

what do you want it to be able to do? V8's are heavy and i would recomend stonger axles but a light foot can save your stocks. the supra motor is nice and bolts to original mounts i believe tons of power aswell. i went 3.4 personaly. check out the lexus v8 swaps thats another cool one ive seen and wish i did

Turbo4Runner · 10-24-2007, 02:08 PM

Turbo the 22RE! Still capable of good gas mileage but the power is there when you need it. Plus turbo motors are just cool.

Check out Darin's website for tons of great info (DCG on this forum).
http://22returbo.net/

I am VERY happy with my setup. Still haven't gone to the Dyno, but I think over 200hp to the wheels will be pretty easy (and over 250ft/lbs). With very basic tuning i'm still getting about 18/19mpg (I run 33's and stock gearing) and its running rich. I haven't gone through a tank yet on the full turbo setup that didn't see some trail time.

GrillmasterP · 10-24-2007, 02:09 PM

5vz-fe(3.4), 3rz (2.7), or 1UZ-FE
GO check out marlin and ORS
There are adapters and wiring harnesses available to save time

michalik_piotr · 10-24-2007, 02:22 PM

or you could get rid of the 33x12.50. thats your problem. i had the same tires then switched to 31x10.5 and problem solved. or re-gear like someone said.

SoCal4Running · 10-24-2007, 02:32 PM

4BT Cummins

BAMF_CT2004 · 10-24-2007, 02:50 PM

if you are thinking of throwing in a different engine the 7mgte would be the easiest and maybe the best for your situation. Or if you can get your hands on a 3.4 that would be good too. Will need to do a little modification to hold the engine and the maybe the tranny toofor the 3.4 and 350. a 350 would break something easily just like on extreme 4x4.

idayota · 10-24-2007, 02:50 PM

re-gear (it isn't as expensive as you might think) and if you're gonna re-power, the 1uz (lexus 4.0L v8) or the 1jzte (supra twin turbo straight six 2.6L) are both good options. do some research and you will be surprised with the power numbers from both motors. you can pick up the 1jz from the jdm market for around $1000 plus shipping and the 1uz's come up every now and then for under $1000 plus shipping. either one would be a great motor. tranny options are pretty open too...seems like these swaps are becoming more popular. if you want to go more mainstream, the older supra 7mge or 7mgte (turbo) straight sixes are both tried and true swaps into yotas for a good price. imho, stick with toyota stuff. lots of guys go with the chev 4.3 or 350 or ford 5.0 and its just not as cool as a keeping it pure. just some thoughts...

rickybobby012889 · 10-24-2007, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo4Runner

Turbo the 22RE! Still capable of good gas mileage but the power is there when you need it. Plus turbo motors are just cool.

Check out Darin's website for tons of great info (DCG on this forum).
http://22returbo.net/

I am VERY happy with my setup. Still haven't gone to the Dyno, but I think over 200hp to the wheels will be pretty easy (and over 250ft/lbs). With very basic tuning i'm still getting about 18/19mpg (I run 33's and stock gearing) and its running rich. I haven't gone through a tank yet on the full turbo setup that didn't see some trail time.

Well where can i find a turbo for it and everything else that I need...Iam leaning more towards the turbo and mods ...So i dont have to do a engine swap right away...

rickybobby012889 · 10-24-2007, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idayota

re-gear (it isn't as expensive as you might think) and if you're gonna re-power, the 1uz (lexus 4.0L v8) or the 1jzte (supra twin turbo straight six 2.6L) are both good options. do some research and you will be surprised with the power numbers from both motors. you can pick up the 1jz from the jdm market for around $1000 plus shipping and the 1uz's come up every now and then for under $1000 plus shipping. either one would be a great motor. tranny options are pretty open too...seems like these swaps are becoming more popular. if you want to go more mainstream, the older supra 7mge or 7mgte (turbo) straight sixes are both tried and true swaps into yotas for a good price. imho, stick with toyota stuff. lots of guys go with the chev 4.3 or 350 or ford 5.0 and its just not as cool as a keeping it pure. just some thoughts...

what kind of gearing did u use in your toy i like the pic what kind of lift have you got and have u got IFS or the SAS

BLKNBLU · 10-24-2007, 05:04 PM

Please answer the "what do you want to do" question because there is no one right answer.

rickybobby012889 · 10-24-2007, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fillsrunner4

what do you want it to be able to do? V8's are heavy and i would recomend stonger axles but a light foot can save your stocks. the supra motor is nice and bolts to original mounts i believe tons of power aswell. i went 3.4 personaly. check out the lexus v8 swaps thats another cool one ive seen and wish i did

I honestly do not want anything for hard crawlin I just want to build my 4runner to be a big toy to trick into town lol

Turbo4Runner · 10-24-2007, 05:16 PM

Darin has a lot of good info on his site.

Jeff Mosk has a lot of great info: http://www.well.com/user/mosk/

Here's a forum for the 22RTE turbo trucks: http://www.22rte-trucks.com/simplemachinesforum/

Turbo's were available from the factory on 86/87 trucks, so you can use a lot of Toyota parts to get the job done (all if you really want, but I'd highly suggest something other then the CT20 turbo). I'm not sure if there is any single website you can buy all the parts as a kit, but you should be able to get a lot of them from the dealership.

Darin, Jeff and myself's motors are all heavily modified though...

If I were you I'd look for a used 22rte motor (factory turbo charged 22re) and swap it, the ECU and fuel pump. Hang a new exhaust on it and drive it. It would be a lot cheaper and eaiser then buying all the parts. It'll be an easy swap because its the same motor.

Good luck!

rickybobby012889 · 10-24-2007, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo4Runner

Darin has a lot of good info on his site.

Jeff Mosk has a lot of great info: http://www.well.com/user/mosk/

Here's a forum for the 22RTE turbo trucks: http://www.22rte-trucks.com/simplemachinesforum/

Turbo's were available from the factory on 86/87 trucks, so you can use a lot of Toyota parts to get the job done (all if you really want, but I'd highly suggest something other then the CT20 turbo). I'm not sure if there is any single website you can buy all the parts as a kit, but you should be able to get a lot of them from the dealership.

Darin, Jeff and myself's motors are all heavily modified though...

If I were you I'd look for a used 22rte motor (factory turbo charged 22re) and swap it, the ECU and fuel pump. Hang a new exhaust on it and drive it. It would be a lot cheaper and eaiser then buying all the parts. It'll be an easy swap because its the same motor.

Good luck!

Thanks for the advice...Keep in touch By the way nice runner again

idayota · 10-24-2007, 08:10 PM

it's an 84, so solid front with marlin 4" lift, 1" body, and 1.5" rear shackles to level everything out with gear loaded running on 37's....just about right but i wouldn't do the body lift over again.

idayota · 10-24-2007, 08:12 PM

sorry...my avatar was older than that...35's in that picture. here's with the 37's...

BLKNBLU · 10-24-2007, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickybobby012889

I honestly do not want anything for hard crawlin I just want to build my 4runner to be a big toy to trick into town lol

OK so if you want to look cool in town, throw a SB V8 in there. Ford 302 or GM 350, your preference. It will be loud, and fast and get noticed for sure. But I wouldn't waste my time on any of that high end Lexus stuff just for cool factor. Thats a different crowd that finds that cool. Sounds to me like you want the Hillbilly Deluxe Toy which probably had nothing Toyota on it except the body.

Here are acouple threads to get you started.
http://www.yotatech.com/f88/upndairs...erplant-48564/
http://www.yotatech.com/f88/1wicked_runners-rig-56881/

Good luck.

BAMF_CT2004 · 10-24-2007, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickybobby012889

I honestly do not want anything for hard crawlin I just want to build my 4runner to be a big toy to trick into town lol

10-24-2007, 01:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
rickybobby012889 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 42	86 4Runner What engine swap should I go with?? Iam just about fed up with not being able to keep with highway traffic because my 22re wont go no harder..Dont get me wrong i think the toyota engines are the best out there but i was thinking of going to a V8 But i need to know what you people think would be the best engine to go with and what kinds of problems am i going to run into mainly how iam going to make this work.. __________________ 1986 Toyota 4Runner 5spd EFI 22R-E. 3" Body lift 2" Supsension 33x12.50 15 on aluminum general lee style rims..Currently has oringinal dark blue paint.

10-24-2007, 02:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
fillsrunner4 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Sammamish, wa Posts: 2,363	what do you want it to be able to do? V8's are heavy and i would recomend stonger axles but a light foot can save your stocks. the supra motor is nice and bolts to original mounts i believe tons of power aswell. i went 3.4 personaly. check out the lexus v8 swaps thats another cool one ive seen and wish i did __________________ 94' toyota 4runner (Many a change!) purchased bone stock, NOW... SAS, 37x14" Iroks, Rear Leafs, 5.29's , Air locked front, Welded rear, 4.3L, Chevy V6 , 5spd swapped, dual T/C's MC10R10, flatbelly with custom skids, sliders, and so much more. Might as well start reading this if ya want know more Fillsrunner4 3.4crawler Build Thread Fillsrunner4.3 crawler (Part Two) build thread

10-24-2007, 02:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
Turbo4Runner Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Denver, Co Posts: 254	Turbo the 22RE! Still capable of good gas mileage but the power is there when you need it. Plus turbo motors are just cool. Check out Darin's website for tons of great info (DCG on this forum). http://22returbo.net/ I am VERY happy with my setup. Still haven't gone to the Dyno, but I think over 200hp to the wheels will be pretty easy (and over 250ft/lbs). With very basic tuning i'm still getting about 18/19mpg (I run 33's and stock gearing) and its running rich. I haven't gone through a tank yet on the full turbo setup that didn't see some trail time. __________________ -Ben '87 4Runner, Turbo'd 22RE, CT26 @ 15psi, Worked Head/Cam/Valves, FMIC, 450cc injectors, MegaSquirt, SS IFS Truss, Manual Hub swap, 4.88 gears, Rear ARB, Front TruTrack, OME Shocks/Leafs, 1.5" BJ Spacers, 33" TrXus on black ProComp wheels.

10-24-2007, 02:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
michalik_piotr Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Seattle Posts: 448	or you could get rid of the 33x12.50. thats your problem. i had the same tires then switched to 31x10.5 and problem solved. or re-gear like someone said. __________________ 1985 4runner sr5 - 5spd, 22re..........sold 2000 4runner Limited - rear locker, TJM, Alpine, Hella, Optilux, Yakima, 265/75 Revos, tint by Skyline. 2000 Ducati M900, Ohlins, Acerbis, Vortex, Yoyodyne, Michelin, NGK, RR, CRG, RK, ARC Fab, Brembo, Odyssey, Afam, HID.

10-24-2007, 02:32 PM	#7 (permalink)
SoCal4Running Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Oceanside, CA. Posts: 786	4BT Cummins __________________ '86 4runner 22RE, 5-speed, LC Street EFI head w/ cam, LC Pistons, ARP Head Studs, Downey header, Dynomax 2 1/4" full exhaust, VDO water temp guage, 01-03 Tacoma cd\tape radio with 10" Bazzoka, Downey 2" rear springs, GDI radiator, Torus fan DONE!!!! '68 Ford Mustang Fastback Daily driver with a built 289 and a streetfighter trans.(Retired) 98 Subaru Outback-Took over daily driving duties MicroMatic.com Waco93.com

10-24-2007, 02:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
GrillmasterP Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 64	5vz-fe(3.4), 3rz (2.7), or 1UZ-FE GO check out marlin and ORS There are adapters and wiring harnesses available to save time

10-24-2007, 02:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
BAMF_CT2004 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Oak Lawn, IL Posts: 348	if you are thinking of throwing in a different engine the 7mgte would be the easiest and maybe the best for your situation. Or if you can get your hands on a 3.4 that would be good too. Will need to do a little modification to hold the engine and the maybe the tranny toofor the 3.4 and 350. a 350 would break something easily just like on extreme 4x4. __________________ Let me tell you what Melba Toast is packin' right here, all right. We got 4:11 Positrac outback, 750 double pumper, Edelbrock intake, bored over 30, 11 to 1 pop-up pistons, turbo-jet 390 horsepower. We're talkin' some muscle. Last edited by BAMF_CT2004 : 10-24-2007 at 02:51 PM.

10-24-2007, 02:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
idayota Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 511	re-gear (it isn't as expensive as you might think) and if you're gonna re-power, the 1uz (lexus 4.0L v8) or the 1jzte (supra twin turbo straight six 2.6L) are both good options. do some research and you will be surprised with the power numbers from both motors. you can pick up the 1jz from the jdm market for around $1000 plus shipping and the 1uz's come up every now and then for under $1000 plus shipping. either one would be a great motor. tranny options are pretty open too...seems like these swaps are becoming more popular. if you want to go more mainstream, the older supra 7mge or 7mgte (turbo) straight sixes are both tried and true swaps into yotas for a good price. imho, stick with toyota stuff. lots of guys go with the chev 4.3 or 350 or ford 5.0 and its just not as cool as a keeping it pure. just some thoughts... __________________ *Wherever, Whenever, However...Tread Lightly!*

10-24-2007, 05:04 PM	#12 (permalink)
BLKNBLU Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 1,198	Please answer the "what do you want to do" question because there is no one right answer. __________________ 86 Runner, BFG 31's, custom Sonoran Steel rear bumper, 4Crawler 1" body lift, rock sliders from Richard Stubbs, Downey 3" lift rear leaf springs, SDORI ball joint spacers, rear Lockright

10-24-2007, 05:16 PM	#14 (permalink)
Turbo4Runner Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Denver, Co Posts: 254	Darin has a lot of good info on his site. Jeff Mosk has a lot of great info: http://www.well.com/user/mosk/ Here's a forum for the 22RTE turbo trucks: http://www.22rte-trucks.com/simplemachinesforum/ Turbo's were available from the factory on 86/87 trucks, so you can use a lot of Toyota parts to get the job done (all if you really want, but I'd highly suggest something other then the CT20 turbo). I'm not sure if there is any single website you can buy all the parts as a kit, but you should be able to get a lot of them from the dealership. Darin, Jeff and myself's motors are all heavily modified though... If I were you I'd look for a used 22rte motor (factory turbo charged 22re) and swap it, the ECU and fuel pump. Hang a new exhaust on it and drive it. It would be a lot cheaper and eaiser then buying all the parts. It'll be an easy swap because its the same motor. Good luck! __________________ -Ben '87 4Runner, Turbo'd 22RE, CT26 @ 15psi, Worked Head/Cam/Valves, FMIC, 450cc injectors, MegaSquirt, SS IFS Truss, Manual Hub swap, 4.88 gears, Rear ARB, Front TruTrack, OME Shocks/Leafs, 1.5" BJ Spacers, 33" TrXus on black ProComp wheels.

10-24-2007, 08:10 PM	#16 (permalink)
idayota Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 511	it's an 84, so solid front with marlin 4" lift, 1" body, and 1.5" rear shackles to level everything out with gear loaded running on 37's....just about right but i wouldn't do the body lift over again. __________________ *Wherever, Whenever, However...Tread Lightly!*

10-24-2007, 08:12 PM	#17 (permalink)
idayota Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 511	sorry...my avatar was older than that...35's in that picture. here's with the 37's... __________________ *Wherever, Whenever, However...Tread Lightly!*