SAS with 3" springs?

YeloSub7 · 03-04-2008, 12:23 PM

Has anyone ever done an SAS with smaller springs (i.e. Trail-Gear's 3 in kit), and gone with 33's or something? Whats the smallest SAS lift that can be done? Pics would be nice!

alpine4x4 · 03-04-2008, 12:38 PM

Search function works good.

About 20 bagillion threads on this

YeloSub7 · 03-04-2008, 12:40 PM

well ya, but was looking for someone on here to talk to them about it...

alpine4x4 · 03-04-2008, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by YeloSub7

well ya, but was looking for someone on here to talk to them about it...

Search for the thread on it, read and find them. Theres a few members on here with buildups of their rig. Just PM them.

Tofer · 03-04-2008, 12:55 PM

3" is min. to clear the hi-steer.

YeloSub7 · 03-04-2008, 01:04 PM

ah I see...

MSR · 03-04-2008, 01:25 PM

check out the low sas threads in the sas section we built one to run on 31" tires, you can clear high steer on a swap at 2 inch lift but need 3 or 4 on a 79-85

YeloSub7 · 03-05-2008, 02:27 AM

Well just wondering how 33's would be with the 3" trail-gear setup... and do you really need 1" higher lift in the rear like their web site says? Who has done either and whats your recommendation?

alpine4x4 · 03-05-2008, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by YeloSub7

Well just wondering how 33's would be with the 3" trail-gear setup... and do you really need 1" higher lift in the rear like their web site says? Who has done either and whats your recommendation?

33's will fit fine. And yes since these runners have a heavy ass they tend to sag. 1" morelift will cure the problems.

Do you really need a SAS?

YeloSub7 · 03-06-2008, 12:13 PM

HAHA, I know they will fit. My plan is to use TG 3" front and 4" rear setups. Just wondering more if 33's would be too small to run or if I would need to modify the spring packs to keep it low, just trying to figure out what works best for what I want. Thanks for the input tho

alpine4x4 · 03-06-2008, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by YeloSub7

HAHA, I know they will fit. My plan is to use TG 3" front and 4" rear setups. Just wondering more if 33's would be too small to run or if I would need to modify the spring packs to keep it low, just trying to figure out what works best for what I want. Thanks for the input tho

Well you could fit 35's with some modification to the pinch weld and removal of valence. Its all about what you need though. 33's might suit you better. With 35's you'll want to re-gear as well.

On second thought put on some 38" tires, flex it out max front and back, let that do your trimming, then put your 35's on HAHAHA!

cootees · 03-06-2008, 12:54 PM

I just bought the 3" kit from trail-gear. I plan on installing it in two weeks. I'm only going to be running 32's for a while. There are some other guys on here that have run the 4" kit with 32's and they seem to like it.

YeloSub7 · 03-06-2008, 05:50 PM

sweet I can't wait to see how it turns out!

ScottyC · 03-07-2008, 05:58 PM

I Just finished this one today.
http://www.yotatech.com/f152/4runner-build-138074/
Its actually a 4" front/5" Rear with a 1" longer shackle in the rear. I highly recommend running the longer shackle on the 2nd gen 4runner.

IMHO, the 3" fronts sit just as high as the 4" fronts if not higher.

I have plenty of experience with these kits. I have done numerous SAS installs for customers.

Here is a 1st gen with 33s that I did also:
http://www.colorado4x4.org/vbb/showt...hlight=4runner

Big_John · 03-07-2008, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottyC

I Just finished this one today.
http://www.yotatech.com/f152/4runner-build-138074/
Its actually a 4" front/5" Rear with a 1" longer shackle in the rear. I highly recommend running the longer shackle on the 2nd gen 4runner.

IMHO, the 3" fronts sit just as high as the 4" fronts if not higher.

I have plenty of experience with these kits. I have done numerous SAS installs for customers.

Here is a 1st gen with 33s that I did also:
http://www.colorado4x4.org/vbb/showt...hlight=4runner

The way I recall it, you sat in a chair heckling me while I did all the work.

ScottyC · 03-07-2008, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Big_John

The way I recall it, you sat in a chair heckling me while I did all the work.

Huh, really. I don't remember that at all...........

Big_John · 03-07-2008, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottyC

Huh, really. I don't remember that at all...........

Haha! I bet you don't.

YeloSub7 · 03-08-2008, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottyC

I Just finished this one today.
http://www.yotatech.com/f152/4runner-build-138074/
Its actually a 4" front/5" Rear with a 1" longer shackle in the rear. I highly recommend running the longer shackle on the 2nd gen 4runner.

IMHO, the 3" fronts sit just as high as the 4" fronts if not higher.

I have plenty of experience with these kits. I have done numerous SAS installs for customers.

Here is a 1st gen with 33s that I did also:
http://www.colorado4x4.org/vbb/showt...hlight=4runner

Sounds like the 3" front/4"inch rear will work then. SO you recommend going 1" higher in the rear AND a 1" longer shackle? (by 1" longer shackle you mean in the shackles actual length or longer shackle to get 1" more lift?)

"IMHO, the 3" fronts sit just as high as the 4" fronts if not higher." - This true? Doesn't make any sense? Unless you place the front hanger to far forward maybe...

not saying your wrong, just wondering why that is.

And whats the setup exactly on that 1st gen?

Anyways, I already have two 8" diffs with 4.88's and limited slips, and at least for the next year or two its gonna be my daily also, so want something more mellow that I can still play with.

03-04-2008, 12:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
YeloSub7 Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 860	SAS with 3" springs? Has anyone ever done an SAS with smaller springs (i.e. Trail-Gear's 3 in kit), and gone with 33's or something? Whats the smallest SAS lift that can be done? Pics would be nice! __________________ -Jake 1990 4Runner <> 1990 Toyota 4Runner-22RE-5 speed-TG 3" front/4" rear-33's-4.88's-rear LSD-front TruTrac-MC Rear Bumper-TG DOM Sliders! SAS Build-Up Old Rigs: '85 4Runner (RIP) '95 4Runner (sold)

03-04-2008, 12:40 PM	#3 (permalink)
YeloSub7 Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 860	well ya, but was looking for someone on here to talk to them about it... __________________ -Jake 1990 4Runner <> 1990 Toyota 4Runner-22RE-5 speed-TG 3" front/4" rear-33's-4.88's-rear LSD-front TruTrac-MC Rear Bumper-TG DOM Sliders! SAS Build-Up Old Rigs: '85 4Runner (RIP) '95 4Runner (sold)

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03-04-2008, 01:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
YeloSub7 Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 860	ah I see... __________________ -Jake 1990 4Runner <> 1990 Toyota 4Runner-22RE-5 speed-TG 3" front/4" rear-33's-4.88's-rear LSD-front TruTrac-MC Rear Bumper-TG DOM Sliders! SAS Build-Up Old Rigs: '85 4Runner (RIP) '95 4Runner (sold)

03-04-2008, 01:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
MSR Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Humboldt Ca. Posts: 238	check out the low sas threads in the sas section we built one to run on 31" tires, you can clear high steer on a swap at 2 inch lift but need 3 or 4 on a 79-85 __________________ www.mikesspecialtyrepair.com

03-04-2008, 12:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
alpine4x4 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 64	Search function works good. About 20 bagillion threads on this

03-05-2008, 02:27 AM	#8 (permalink)
YeloSub7 Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 860	Well just wondering how 33's would be with the 3" trail-gear setup... and do you really need 1" higher lift in the rear like their web site says? Who has done either and whats your recommendation? __________________ -Jake 1990 4Runner <> 1990 Toyota 4Runner-22RE-5 speed-TG 3" front/4" rear-33's-4.88's-rear LSD-front TruTrac-MC Rear Bumper-TG DOM Sliders! SAS Build-Up Old Rigs: '85 4Runner (RIP) '95 4Runner (sold)

03-06-2008, 12:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
YeloSub7 Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 860	HAHA, I know they will fit. My plan is to use TG 3" front and 4" rear setups. Just wondering more if 33's would be too small to run or if I would need to modify the spring packs to keep it low, just trying to figure out what works best for what I want. Thanks for the input tho __________________ -Jake 1990 4Runner <> 1990 Toyota 4Runner-22RE-5 speed-TG 3" front/4" rear-33's-4.88's-rear LSD-front TruTrac-MC Rear Bumper-TG DOM Sliders! SAS Build-Up Old Rigs: '85 4Runner (RIP) '95 4Runner (sold) Last edited by YeloSub7 : 03-06-2008 at 12:27 PM.

03-06-2008, 12:54 PM	#12 (permalink)
cootees Contributing Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Roanoke Va Posts: 880	I just bought the 3" kit from trail-gear. I plan on installing it in two weeks. I'm only going to be running 32's for a while. There are some other guys on here that have run the 4" kit with 32's and they seem to like it. __________________ -- '90 4Runner 2Dr 3.0 / sas /FJ80 rear coils / rear e-locker / 32's/ MC Rear bumper / TG Sliders / surco basket / cobra 18 wxstII / ISR / Magnaflow exhaust

03-06-2008, 05:50 PM	#13 (permalink)
YeloSub7 Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 860	sweet I can't wait to see how it turns out! __________________ -Jake 1990 4Runner <> 1990 Toyota 4Runner-22RE-5 speed-TG 3" front/4" rear-33's-4.88's-rear LSD-front TruTrac-MC Rear Bumper-TG DOM Sliders! SAS Build-Up Old Rigs: '85 4Runner (RIP) '95 4Runner (sold)

03-07-2008, 05:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
ScottyC Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 512	I Just finished this one today. http://www.yotatech.com/f152/4runner-build-138074/ Its actually a 4" front/5" Rear with a 1" longer shackle in the rear. I highly recommend running the longer shackle on the 2nd gen 4runner. IMHO, the 3" fronts sit just as high as the 4" fronts if not higher. I have plenty of experience with these kits. I have done numerous SAS installs for customers. Here is a 1st gen with 33s that I did also: http://www.colorado4x4.org/vbb/showt...hlight=4runner __________________ Scotty http://www.addictedoffroad.com/ 970-420-4198 1st Gen 4runner corner panel protection Toyota Winch bumpers on SALE!

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