FJ60 or 1st gen 4Runner?

cosmo · 06-29-2008, 03:20 PM

I have been considering buying either an FJ60 Land Cruiser or an 84-85 4Runner.

I know the LC has more torque and hp, but is also probably quite a bit heavier. Either way I want a solid axle. I have heard that the 2F/3F engines are bulletproof, but then again so is the 22R.

Which would you choose?

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toy power · 06-29-2008, 04:15 PM

land cruiser!

4rnr · 06-29-2008, 04:31 PM

Even the fj60 owners I know would rather have a mini. especially when it comes to wheeling the 60 is a fat, underpowered, heavy, trail clogger. Its beautiful though. The mini is lighter, cheaper, more reliable, more capable, larger aftermarket, more parts, more in junk yards...

I love land cruisers, but in my not so humble opinion, the FJ60/62 is the worst land cruiser, best looking, but most worthless by far!

BTW I own a fj62.

Belize Off Road Team · 06-29-2008, 04:54 PM

Land Cruiser is my vote

cosmo · 06-29-2008, 04:59 PM

what's the rev limit on the 2F? isn't it around 4500?

My dad took his carbed '85 22R up to 7600 once... scary.

cosmo · 07-15-2008, 11:18 AM

no replies yet, so...

BUMP!!!

jct61765 · 07-15-2008, 11:47 AM

Are you buying for a daily driver, with some offroad? If daily driver you have to look at the gas mileage.

4Crawler · 07-15-2008, 11:52 AM

Probably would help to know your intended use and needs. 2 doors or 4? More bare bones or a more comfy interior? Keep it (near) stock or build it up? Probably have more build up options on the pickup/4Runner than the '60. I used to drive an FJ55 and now an '85 4Runner and the 4Runner is hands down better all around. Never driven a '60, but have a buddy who used to drive a 1st gen 4Runner and he swapped to a '60 when he hit first child got old enough to go wheeling and he had a 2nd one on the way. 2 doors just did not cut it with the family and he needed to carry more gear with the wife and kids. I think he now has an FJ80.

JamesD · 07-15-2008, 12:09 PM

Fj60 is what I would get. So much cooler than the 4Runner.

James

toyNG · 07-15-2008, 01:09 PM

If it were me I'd go with the Land Cruiser. The 60 is such a beautiful rig! I really want one! As far as wheeling characteristics, I wouldn't know, as I've never wheeled one.

MYFJ6O · 10-01-2008, 07:22 PM

4300 is all mine will do with the 33sX10 tires on

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo

what's the rev limit on the 2F? isn't it around 4500?

My dad took his carbed '85 22R up to 7600 once... scary.

littlecommando · 10-01-2008, 07:25 PM

id go with the land cruiser, but thats just because its soo hard to find the other 2 you listed

duel · 10-01-2008, 07:43 PM

fj40 troop carrier!
or any of the other half a dozed fj40 variants.

bigarms23 · 10-02-2008, 12:04 PM

the land crusier has the bigger ring and pinion so i vote crusier but if you want a removale top than 4runner

tibbycruiser · 10-02-2008, 01:57 PM

I would go with the Landcruiser also, the 4 runner is not going to get much better gas mileage and feels so cheap and tinny compared to the LC.
I have had them both.
The LC is also very capable in stock form, throw an OME lift and a locker in the rear and you will be set.

Diesel_Freak · 10-04-2008, 04:34 PM

Runners hardly feel cheap and while they may be smaller, they're every bit as stout. I LOVE my 1st gen 4runner, but Personaly I wouldn't want a newer one. That's a personal preference thing, the newer gens are sweet, they're just not my style. I love how utilitarian the 1st genRunner/2nd gen trucks looks and everytime I get in my truck I imagine I'm back in Australia heading out into the bush. Comparitively, the 60 will haul more stuff, and IMO if swaped to some form of Diesel would make one awsome long haul but still very off road capable type rig.

It really comes down to what you want.

-The WB of a 1st Gen runner is about perfect and the size is a real asset out ohn the trail. They're smaller, yes, but they can still haul alot of stuff for their size, I'm always amazed at that'll fit back there. For a 2 Person expedition they're great. 3 people is doable, and 4+is a pain in the ass. That said, they'll haul 5 people out to wheel and back for a day trip thing.

-The 60 is bigger and as I said is more of a family hauler. They're really roomyu inside and are pretty dam comfortable cruising down the highway if they have some sound deadining added to them. They're really very capable trail rigs as well, but like a full size, their size can get them into trouble. Couse all that wheel base can also make them climb very very well.

Tough Call, and finding a 1st gen runner in really good shape is getting tougher by the year.

Hope to see a build one of these days.
Cheers

Dave

wardriver · 10-04-2008, 06:53 PM

I had a few FJ40's and a Trekker and now a 2nd gen 4runner- I would take and FJ back any day in a heartbeat...

Why did sell ALL of them again

06-29-2008, 04:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,469	Even the fj60 owners I know would rather have a mini. especially when it comes to wheeling the 60 is a fat, underpowered, heavy, trail clogger. Its beautiful though. The mini is lighter, cheaper, more reliable, more capable, larger aftermarket, more parts, more in junk yards... I love land cruisers, but in my not so humble opinion, the FJ60/62 is the worst land cruiser, best looking, but most worthless by far! BTW I own a fj62. __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

06-29-2008, 04:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
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06-29-2008, 04:59 PM	#5 (permalink)
cosmo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 70	what's the rev limit on the 2F? isn't it around 4500? My dad took his carbed '85 22R up to 7600 once... scary. __________________ '93 4WD Truck (22R-E/W56) '99 Tacoma 4WD SR5 (5VZ-FE/R150F)

07-15-2008, 11:18 AM	#6 (permalink)
cosmo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 70	no replies yet, so... BUMP!!! __________________ '93 4WD Truck (22R-E/W56) '99 Tacoma 4WD SR5 (5VZ-FE/R150F)

07-15-2008, 11:47 AM	#7 (permalink)
jct61765 Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Peterborough, New Hampshire Posts: 431	Are you buying for a daily driver, with some offroad? If daily driver you have to look at the gas mileage. __________________ 2002 4runner sport 4X4 87,000 and counting 2007 Camry LE "I'm bitterly clinging to Guns and Religion" (and I'll keep the rest of the constitution too)

06-29-2008, 04:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
toy power Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 171	land cruiser!

07-15-2008, 11:52 AM	#8 (permalink)
4Crawler Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Posts: 7,827	Probably would help to know your intended use and needs. 2 doors or 4? More bare bones or a more comfy interior? Keep it (near) stock or build it up? Probably have more build up options on the pickup/4Runner than the '60. I used to drive an FJ55 and now an '85 4Runner and the 4Runner is hands down better all around. Never driven a '60, but have a buddy who used to drive a 1st gen 4Runner and he swapped to a '60 when he hit first child got old enough to go wheeling and he had a 2nd one on the way. 2 doors just did not cut it with the family and he needed to carry more gear with the wife and kids. I think he now has an FJ80. __________________ 1985 Toyota 4Runner SR-5, 22REC engine, dual t-cases, 4.88 gears, dual ARBs, 33x10.50 BFGs or 35x12.50 MTRs r.c.brown@ieee.org TruckEditor@tlca.org Project: 4Crawler 4Crawler OffRoad Gettin'Off 4WD Club

07-15-2008, 12:09 PM	#9 (permalink)
JamesD Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 1,828	Fj60 is what I would get. So much cooler than the 4Runner. James __________________ New Tacome V6 transfer case http://www.yotatech.com/f107/sale-br.../#post50755569 Various Toyota truck/4Runner switches for sale http://www.yotatech.com/f109/various...trucks-148139/

07-15-2008, 01:09 PM	#10 (permalink)
toyNG Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Redlands, CA Posts: 563	If it were me I'd go with the Land Cruiser. The 60 is such a beautiful rig! I really want one! As far as wheeling characteristics, I wouldn't know, as I've never wheeled one. __________________ 1986 pickup 4x4 SR5, 5-spd, 33x10.5 BFG KM1 muds, 2" body lift, front and rear lockrights, 4.88s, 4.7 t-case with Dave'z twin stick, BudBuilt crossmember with 1" drivetrain lift, Downey grille guard and skid plate, TG sliders Still needed: rear bumper (Marlin, TG, or Dave'z)

10-01-2008, 07:43 PM	#13 (permalink)
duel Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 88	fj40 troop carrier! or any of the other half a dozed fj40 variants. __________________ Basically Stock. 31' Sumitomos.

10-02-2008, 12:04 PM	#14 (permalink)
bigarms23 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: mountains of truckee ca Posts: 1,010	the land crusier has the bigger ring and pinion so i vote crusier but if you want a removale top than 4runner __________________ 1988sr5 4.3v6 4runner with chevy axles 513 gears dual cases overall 300to1 ratio 36mtzs 5inch lift detroits 1972 stepside jimmy d44/d70 425hp 1995 green range rover

10-02-2008, 01:57 PM	#15 (permalink)
tibbycruiser Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 33	I would go with the Landcruiser also, the 4 runner is not going to get much better gas mileage and feels so cheap and tinny compared to the LC. I have had them both. The LC is also very capable in stock form, throw an OME lift and a locker in the rear and you will be set.

10-04-2008, 04:34 PM	#16 (permalink)
Diesel_Freak Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: PDX, Oregon Posts: 420	Runners hardly feel cheap and while they may be smaller, they're every bit as stout. I LOVE my 1st gen 4runner, but Personaly I wouldn't want a newer one. That's a personal preference thing, the newer gens are sweet, they're just not my style. I love how utilitarian the 1st genRunner/2nd gen trucks looks and everytime I get in my truck I imagine I'm back in Australia heading out into the bush. Comparitively, the 60 will haul more stuff, and IMO if swaped to some form of Diesel would make one awsome long haul but still very off road capable type rig. It really comes down to what you want. -The WB of a 1st Gen runner is about perfect and the size is a real asset out ohn the trail. They're smaller, yes, but they can still haul alot of stuff for their size, I'm always amazed at that'll fit back there. For a 2 Person expedition they're great. 3 people is doable, and 4+is a pain in the ass. That said, they'll haul 5 people out to wheel and back for a day trip thing. -The 60 is bigger and as I said is more of a family hauler. They're really roomyu inside and are pretty dam comfortable cruising down the highway if they have some sound deadining added to them. They're really very capable trail rigs as well, but like a full size, their size can get them into trouble. Couse all that wheel base can also make them climb very very well. Tough Call, and finding a 1st gen runner in really good shape is getting tougher by the year. Hope to see a build one of these days. Cheers Dave __________________ Project 4Rescue: 89 Gen1 22RE 5spd 4Runner...Marlin DOM rear bumper, OME rear/ BJ spacer front, OME shocks all around. Lucas Pro series HD clutch: DONE!!! BRAND SPANKIN NEW 22RE DONE!!!!! Firefighters: Cause somebody's got to step up and do it... RIP: Charles Edward DelaForest: Born Sept 78 - Murdered May 05 I miss you Brother

10-04-2008, 06:53 PM	#17 (permalink)
wardriver Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 26.3 road miles from the AT (VA) Posts: 319	I had a few FJ40's and a Trekker and now a 2nd gen 4runner- I would take and FJ back any day in a heartbeat... Why did sell ALL of them again __________________ Current Toyota -95' 4Runner - 3.0/AT - New HG - Yakima Rack - MT's - Hella's - GPS- Sat Radio - Onboard 120V Former Toyotas - 81' Trekker- 70' FJ40 - 76' FJ40 -72 FJ40 - 85 Hilux (ZERO options) Laptop CarPC Switch Mod \| DC to AC Inverter Switch Mod Staff Mod for nHunting.com a community forum for hunting/fishing/shooting

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