steveo2992

I have a 1991 TOYOTA 4RUNNER 3.0 and i was woundering if any of them come stock with rear coils? This is the reason i bought it about a year ago and it has a 3 inch body lift. I do notice it sits up higher than most 4runners that are stock or with body lift. Do you think i can put 35 inch tires on? I have 33 righ now. I also have a rear Lckright locker. Thanks a lot STEVE

faubrunner64

well they all cam stock with rear coils that is there suspension design... with coils, i have a 3 inch bl also but i have 32" how do the 33's look?.. im planning on going up another 1.5 to 2 inches with bj spacers and coil spacers when i have that do you think ill want 35s?

Red3.slow

I'm not sure about 35's Even if you could fit them I bet they would rub like crazy. As for 33's with a 3 inch body you can get 33x12.5 with little to no problem with rubbing from what I've seen. Maybe new coils or coil spacers in the back and a slight t-bar crank

steveo2992

Yeah I have 35x12.5x15 on there right now i havent ever had any rub thats why i was going to see if i can fit 35's on there. I like the 33s but i wannt a lil more diff clearance for the snow. Im in need of new tires if i decide to go with 33s again or 35s. But if you get the 33s with body lift you wont have any problem running them. I would show you but i dont know how to put a pic on here im kind of new.

jsnby

I would think that 35's with a 3" body lift would rub like crazy. With my rear leaf conversion, I'm probably about 6-7" over stock. The only issues I had was the back of my tire getting caught on my rear bumper during articulation, but that could be due to having leaves in the rear. I took off the side wings of my rear bumper for now until I can build a new one.

My springs have settled about an inch and a half since these pictures:

faubrunner64

thanks but im planning on going up another 2 to 3 inches with bj spacers and coils pacers so thatd be a 5 to 6 inch lift onthy then would i consider 35 never with just the 3 inch bl

AH64ID

BJ spacers provide no room for larger tires.. The suspension compresses to the stock location.. so if it rubs now it WILL rub with BJ spacers. And BJ spacers only give you 1.5" of lift.. you would have to crank your tbars for the last .5-1.5", which makes for a VERY stiff ride, and still doesnt increase your tire clearance margin....

3" BL should provide room for a tire 6" taller than stock, but no wider... Since some runners had 31's stock you could safely say that with a 3" BL you could run a 37x10.50 and not rub... or when you go wider you must go shorter, a 35x10.50 should fit no problem and be great in the snow too.. A 35x12.50 should fit with some trimming.. but not sure.. I have a 4" bracket lift and clear 35's, but had to due some trimming.

slosurfer

Here is a pic of 33's with 4.5" of suspension lift in the rear. So just imagine some 35's right there just as a reference.


There isn't even room for the bolts that hold on the rear mudflaps.

faubrunner64

yeah thats a nice tuck! but the tires dont look dinkey when just driving around?

slosurfer

I don't think so, but I also still throw on my 31's when I am not wheeling, those look tiny. Here's just a side pic:

FredTJ

Johh, you confuse me (probably just an age thingy with me ).

Are these not two contradictory statements ??




Fred

AxleIke

Technically not.

NOt to worry though, i didn't figure this out until AFTER i purchased my spacers...Whoops.

The way the bj spacers work is they push the lower Aarm down 1.5". This provides more ground clearance, BUT, the arm will still compress up to the stock bumpstop location. You get an inch and a half added to the stroke, but in the end, your tire ends up in the same position stock or with the BJ spacer at compression. If you put spacers on the bumpstops, you lose your stroke, but you'll be able to fit more tire w/out rubbing

FredTJ

But this is *exactly* true of ANY suspension lift done without bumpstop adjustments.

Put, say, 4" springs of the rear of the 4Runner. Without doing any adjustments, the suspension will still compress up to the stock bumpstop location. You end up with 4" of suspension lift, just as you end up with ca 2" of suspension lift (in the front) with bj spacers.
This is one of the things that a bl provides in tandom with a suspension lift.
Adding a suspension lift and bigger tires requires adjusting the bumpstops down (loosing upward travel) to prevent the bigger tires from contacting something. Add a bl and now you can adjust the bumpstops less, or maybe not at all, thus gaining upward travel.

I hear all of the time (on the Jeep boards especially) that someone adds xxx amount of suspension lift and a larger tire and now the tire hits at full stuff. Sure as the sun will come up tomorrow, someone will chime in and say "add more suspension lift"...
That won't help at all, in and of itself.
I usually reply back asking them what stops the upward movement of the axle. It's not the amount of air between the top of the tire and the fender





Fred

faubrunner64

how did you obtain 4.5" of rear suspension lift?

AH64ID

Not at all. They, without adjusting TBARS, provide a 1.5" increased ride height, aka lift.

However the suspension still cycles thru its stock swing. When the IFS setup droops its droop is limited by a bumpstop on the upper arm, the ball joint spacer is between the upper arm and hub, you get 1.5" increased droop. When compressed the limit is a bumpstop on the lower control arm, the BJ spacer is above the hub, thus on compression the hub(tire) is in the same location it was stock, therfore you have no room for a larger tire.

If you read on 4crawlers site you will see that you can get 1.5" lift, more or less.. depending on where you set the torsion bars. Many people opt for the softer ride, so they put a BJ spacer in and loosen the tbars, you now have the same heights as before and a much nicer ride..

AxleIke

Fred TJ, you are correct. bump adjustment is needed on really any lift.

I chose to cut fender, its much more fun that way.

slosurfer

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