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is there a better way to get the 22R engines to actually warm up faster?

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Old 09-09-2009, 07:34 PM
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So I was right??
>snip<
Nope.
You said:
You can ditch your clutch fan for an electric one or put some cardboard in front of your radiator to reduce that cold air from comin in.
That will not noticibly help the engine warm up any quicker. The thermostat should regulate that, but having the heater on while warming up will delay the engine warming up, as I mentioned above. The heater gets its fresh air from in front of the windshield, not from the radiator so cardboard in front of the radiator won't keep the heater from drawing in ambient/cold air and cooling the coolant down.
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bore it .30 over; mine warms up before I can get outta the neighborhood, and that's jumping in, firing up, and making 3 turns onto neighborhood streets, lol

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Engine block heater- will keep the coolant just about warm enough to start the engine, turn the heater on and drive away... hope you got the oil pump and heater too.
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Originally Posted by abecedarian
Nope.
You said: That will not noticibly help the engine warm up any quicker. The thermostat should regulate that, but having the heater on while warming up will delay the engine warming up, as I mentioned above. The heater gets its fresh air from in front of the windshield, not from the radiator so cardboard in front of the radiator won't keep the heater from drawing in ambient/cold air and cooling the coolant down.
Damn, I thought I had somethin there... lol!
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Damn, I thought I had somethin there... lol!
Now you hate me, don't you?
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Now you hate me, don't you?


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Old 09-09-2009, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBluePile
Who?
Altons is a tire place.. like uhhh... Les Schwabb..
They sell tires, and they do alignments, axle work, and they'll change your oil for 20 bucks.

Originally Posted by abecedarian
Cardboard in front of the radiator won't help much, if at all, to help warm the engine up if the heater is on: coolant for the heater is taken from between #2 and #3 cylinders, below the gauge temp sending unit, not from the thermostat area. If the thermostat is closed and the heater 'temp' is set to high, water will flow through the heater core inside the cab... it bypasses the thermostat... and if the fan is on, the heater core will act like a mini radiator, cooling the coolant off. So keep the temp slider to cold so that the coolant doesn't flow, until the engine is noticably warming up.
And you want the thermostat operating properly too- if the coolant isn't 160+F, it shouldn't be opened. If it is opened below that, it's letting heat transfer to the radiator, and that will keep the engine from warming up properly too.

The trick to warming up in really cold weather is to NOT use the heater until the thermostat comes off the peg, otherwise you're pulling cold air in through the heater core and cooling the coolant down as if the thermostat were open.

Also, make sure that, in the case of the 22r, the stove pipe / heat riser from the exhaust manifold shield to the air filter housing is in place, the 'diverter' valve in the air filter housing is causing the carb to draw air over the exhaust manifold instead of bypassing and drawing in cool air, and that your fast idle speed, mixture and the ignition timing are set properly.
Okay, so that definitely makes a ton more sense. I usually have the heater on while its "warming up" so that it also defrosts my windows. I'll have to try this next.

Also, sort of related. How much are the idler arm bushings?
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Also, sort of related. How much are the idler arm bushings?
under 10$ for both
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sweet.
I'll be replacing those this weekend then.
un-aligned driving is uhh...
not fun.
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