GrizzlyNC

I didn't quite expect to replace my 22RE just yet, but it finally gave up the ghost. I figured since the only issue I EVER had with my truck was that it was too under powered. I figure since an engine is far less then a new truck I may as well put a new one in and go with a High Performance one. I was able to get some of the specs from the guy that built it. Do these look like good spec's for a HP engine? I have searched online and on here and can not find any OEM spec's or Hi Pro spec's either. I'm hoping some of you 22RE guru's on here can tell me if these look good. I hate to ask such a "Noob" question but I'm not a mechanic and I just want to make double sure that I am getting what I'm paying for.

040 kb pistons

010 mains

010 rods

Bearing clearance .0015 on all rods and mains

Ring end gap .018

Sidewall clearance .002

Any feedback would be appreceated .. Thanks a Mill. U guys!!

GrizzlyNC

Awe.. C'mon.. ANYONE out there know about clearances??

ovrrdrive

Well, I don't know much about the clearances, but I can say that if you want more power you need to do an engine swap.

I have read it before and have experienced it myself to a degree, there is nothing you can do to a 22RE to make enough of a power difference that you will actually be happy with it if you are looking for more power.

I went with a head that had OS valves, heavier springs, and a stage 2 Crane cam in it and I can tell a little difference but it is still the same old 22re. I could do some exhaust mods and a few other things, but it will still run like the same old 22re.

I compare my engine to stock like this, you know how your engine seems to have good days and bad days depending on weather and gas quality? Well mine just seems to be having a good day everyday now.



If you're almost happy with the 22re then get a modded one. It may suffice. If you're actually looking for more noticeable horsepower do a V6 swap or better yet a SBC V8 swap. Now you're talking...

kyle_22r

kb pistons = keith black hypereutectic pistons most likely. sort of a medium performance piston.

on these engines, all the power is in the head...what's the specs on that?

GrizzlyNC

Here are a few more spec's.. and it is a swap.. Suposedly over 150HP when done.. we'll see..

Brand new AMC after market Cylinder head (Better flow and not prone to cracking or electrolysis)

New hardened seats

Nw Italian Valves, new bronze guides

New performance springs

New Rocker Shafts (new improved oiling) new OEM rocker arms

New Tappets and adjuster nuts

Rv2 cam shaft


And a few other goodies plus a freeflow exhaust..

toyotaoffroad91

sounds like a waste of money for performance gain.....3.4 swap..done

dmatter

How much is a 3.4 Swap Compared to his new 22re? I would Imagine 3 Times as Much................

Chuki

I have a hybrid 20R/22R and I'm happy with it, if I had to do it all over again I would. There is power in these 22Rs you just have to find it, and have the right gearing for the tires.

Everyone is so quick to do an engine swap... I don't see nothing wrong with that, but when your asking for help with your 22R and everyone is saying ENGINE SWAP! ENGINE SWAP! That doesn't really help.

Depending on the camshaft and the headwork you'll either be really impressed with it, or you wont. His claims at 150HP need to be backed up by Dyno charts, not just, well with all these I expect it to put out about 150HP.

I dyno'd my 20R/22R combo and I dyno'd it at just a shade under 150, I think it was 142HP at the crank, and about 175ft-lbs, I have since re-tuned the carb, changed my ignition up a little bit, I expect that it might be almost up to 150HP.

Is it fun? HELL YEAH ITS FUN!!! In all honesty, I think its faster and more powerful then the 3.0 in my 4Runner.. Only thing my 4Runner has it on is dead stop accelleration but I have 5.29s and 33s in my hybie equiped truck so I'm in and out of gears quick. My Hybie has a hell of alot more idle power then my 3.0, I can putt around all over in the mountains idling, and my 3.0 will just die on me (high range idling)

But I'm one of those folks that like to think outside the norm, alot of people are quick to ditch an engine. Not me, the 22R based engine will be staying in my 82'. If I want more power I'll push more oughta my 22R, I'll supercharge/turbocharge/nitrous before I'll think about swapping for something else.

But thats just me, I like tinkering with things like that.

kyle_22r

with a late model 85 or newer 22R, i wouldn't recommend the 20R head swap. it requires machine work and it just flat won't work with fuel injection.

i recently rebuilt the 22RE in my '91 to similar specs as my 20/22 hybrid in my '79 but i've been a little disappointed with the results. there is something with either the intake or the exhaust that's keeping this engine from it's true potential i think. the 20/22 has 2 1/4 exhaust and a thorley header, so maybe i'll save some money up and go that route...hmmm....

the hybrid in my '79 will outrun any 3.0 and many other engines, even on 34" swampers. i've never had a 4 banger that was so much fun to drive.

GrizzlyNC

I figure after I let the rings and a few other things seat, I'll get it Dyno'ed locally. I told the guy building it that I am doing so and that it better get what he said or DAMN close to it or were gonna have words since he would have misrepresented the engine. We'll see...

Elton

you have a header ?

GrizzlyNC

Yes.. Pacesetter, a freeflow Carsound Cat, and will prob. use a flowmaster 40 and 2 1/4 pipe...

Elton

ditch the flowmaster and go with magnaflow

GrizzlyNC

really? why? Just curious.. I WOULD like it to be a lil quieter then a 40.. but want the performance..

Elton

there just junk if you want performance and a nice sound go with a 18'' magnaflow muffer i got my muffler from http://www.hottexhaust.com/Index2.htm good customer service

Elton

read this https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116/brand-exhaust-307/ and you will see flowmaster just dont flow at all

GrizzlyNC

Wow... that's interesting.. I'll have to check with my exhaust guy and see if he can pick up a Magnaflow if I decide to go with that.. besides it would probably match up better with my Magnaflow/Carsound Cat... I just want to get the very best out of this engine since it's my daily driver.

GrizzlyNC

As for my orig. question I guess finding someone who know's thos kind of tolarences is probably not very common. I Still appreceate all of the feedback guys!!!

Chuki

EFI on a 20R is not impossible, and is not a flat wont work case either... Its not that EFI wont work, its more of a how can I mount an EFI intake to it.

I have an adapter that will allow me to bolt a 22R EFI intake to my 20R head

Ideally if you wanna build a fairly sick hybie you want to use the 85+ blocks. You just have to have the head machined down to bring compression ratio back up to norm. The reason for this, is more of the combustion is held within the cylinder, and you get a more even flameout. The result is a more reliable, smoother running engine.

If I had unlimited $$$, I'd love to get ahold of an 85+ block, 20R head, go with a megasquirt ECU, distributorless ignition, Oversized stainless valves, mill the head down to acheive about 8.5:1 static compression ratio, and stick a nice Turbo Charger system on it with a nice amount of boost, and I imagine on pump gas you could probably pull off 220HP using a Megasquirt ECU, and some tuning.