'88 4runner - 22re cooling system disaster - PIC request please!

babyfood1217 · 11-14-2009, 04:54 PM

PIC REQUEST - I need pictures of the height of an installed radiator with the cap on. Straight on shot with a ruler placed somewhere. I need to see how far up everything should be sitting.

I 'm having some clearance issues, and I think some recent component failures may be caused in part because of my hood pressing on the radiator cap, resulting in it seating improperly on the filler neck causing a lack of pressure and preventing a number of components involved with the cooling system from functioning properly.

I'll add some details in a minute. I'm starving for a beer...

-Chris

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Tubbyfatty · 11-14-2009, 06:04 PM

Mine sits like 2 inches above the core support, my friend who has a body lift (3") has his sitting an inch below the core support, its way down there.

92 TOY · 11-14-2009, 06:08 PM

when i installed my new radiator(spectra) with a larger cap it also had clearance issues (no pics, i'm rebuilding the engine, sorry)......but i mocked-up a cap with foil and dropped the hood to see where it hit. turned out i had to make some relief cuts (two approx 1/8'') in the hood bracing where it hit and then it was fine.

babyfood1217 · 11-14-2009, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 92 TOY

... i had to make some relief cuts (two approx 1/8'') in the hood bracing where it hit and then it was fine.

I've been looking at the bracing, and I think I may do this. The last radiator I had just failed recently with a large fracture at the base of the filler neck, caused likely by the pressure of the hood bracing on the cap. Without pulling the entire radiator out and fiddling with nutserts and drills and grinder to create new core supports, I can't move the radiator any lower. So perhaps a few choice notches wouldn't be so terrible. Still hoping for some pictures if anyone has them.

-Chris

myyota · 11-14-2009, 07:25 PM

Why not just get the correct radiator to solve the problem ???.

babyfood1217 · 11-14-2009, 07:36 PM

I've been trying, but apparently I, just like the mechanics at the local Toyota service center, as well the podunk mechanics at the shop in Indiana where it broke down last week, "couldn't get one." I found out yesterday after opening a complaint with the dealer, that they got there from Weaver auto parts, and the Indiana shop got theirs from Carquest. I would love to have a OEM radiator, but apparently, they are harder to find than the culprit behind my fuel supply/ignition problems.

The Toyota dealer put one in this february when I had numerous oil seal failures and had most of the coolant system replaced as well.

The indiana shop put one in last week when the "toyota" one developed a fracture at the base of the filler neck, likely in part from the pressure of the hood pressing on it.

92 TOY · 11-15-2009, 02:50 PM

The hoods are probably different but here's what I did.....

to acomodate a higher radiator with a larger cap

However. on my son's '88 3vze we replace his radiator with the same brand(Spectra) and had no issue, but it's a different engine

myyota · 11-15-2009, 04:31 PM

Go to radiatorbarn.com and you can get an oem replacement that will fit like the original radiator, i bought a three core replacement radiator from them for my 86 4Runner and its working good.

11-14-2009, 06:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tubbyfatty Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hillsboro, OR Posts: 1,600	Mine sits like 2 inches above the core support, my friend who has a body lift (3") has his sitting an inch below the core support, its way down there. __________________ 94 4runner / SR5 / 3vz-e / 5spd / 4x4 (duh) / Mudcat EXT 30x 9.5R15s / Marlin Crawler HD Clutch / ISR / Hella 700FFs 100w bulbs / 2 10'' JBL subs / ported sub box / kicker mono amp / Pioneer DEH-P490IB / sitting 1-1.5'' below factory, thanks butt sag...

11-14-2009, 06:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
92 TOY Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Northeast Pennsylvania Posts: 1,080	when i installed my new radiator(spectra) with a larger cap it also had clearance issues (no pics, i'm rebuilding the engine, sorry)......but i mocked-up a cap with foil and dropped the hood to see where it hit. turned out i had to make some relief cuts (two approx 1/8'') in the hood bracing where it hit and then it was fine. __________________ 1992 4x4 shortbed /22re/auto/192,000 miles--original owner(rebuild in process) 1988 SR5 4runner /V6/5 speed/248,000 miles/bought April 2009/*UNDER CONSTRUCTION* 2006 SR5 4runner (the wife's)....still being paid for... >>>>Check out My SLOOOOOOW Re-build Thread<<<< http://www.yotatech.com/f116/92-toy-...-start-188472/

11-14-2009, 07:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
myyota Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Pablo, CA Posts: 1,400	Why not just get the correct radiator to solve the problem ???. __________________ 86 Toyota 4Runner Solid Axle Swap, 16'' of lift, 37x12.50-15 GoodYear MTR tires, 5 speed manual trans swap, InchWorm Duel Cases With 5.7 Gears, 63'' Chevy Springs In The Rear, 5'' Trail Gear Springs In Front, Marlin Crawler Third Members, 4.88 Gears With A Detroit In The Rear, High Pinion Front With 4.88 Gears And An ARB, Downey Header, Optima Battery, Trail Gear Sliders, Addicted Offroad Front Bumper, Trail Gear Rear Bumper.

11-15-2009, 02:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
92 TOY Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Northeast Pennsylvania Posts: 1,080	The hoods are probably different but here's what I did..... to acomodate a higher radiator with a larger cap However. on my son's '88 3vze we replace his radiator with the same brand(Spectra) and had no issue, but it's a different engine __________________ 1992 4x4 shortbed /22re/auto/192,000 miles--original owner(rebuild in process) 1988 SR5 4runner /V6/5 speed/248,000 miles/bought April 2009/*UNDER CONSTRUCTION* 2006 SR5 4runner (the wife's)....still being paid for... >>>>Check out My SLOOOOOOW Re-build Thread<<<< http://www.yotatech.com/f116/92-toy-...-start-188472/

11-15-2009, 04:31 PM	#8 (permalink)
myyota Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Pablo, CA Posts: 1,400	Go to radiatorbarn.com and you can get an oem replacement that will fit like the original radiator, i bought a three core replacement radiator from them for my 86 4Runner and its working good. __________________ 86 Toyota 4Runner Solid Axle Swap, 16'' of lift, 37x12.50-15 GoodYear MTR tires, 5 speed manual trans swap, InchWorm Duel Cases With 5.7 Gears, 63'' Chevy Springs In The Rear, 5'' Trail Gear Springs In Front, Marlin Crawler Third Members, 4.88 Gears With A Detroit In The Rear, High Pinion Front With 4.88 Gears And An ARB, Downey Header, Optima Battery, Trail Gear Sliders, Addicted Offroad Front Bumper, Trail Gear Rear Bumper.

11-14-2009, 07:36 PM	#6 (permalink)
babyfood1217 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 48	I've been trying, but apparently I, just like the mechanics at the local Toyota service center, as well the podunk mechanics at the shop in Indiana where it broke down last week, "couldn't get one." I found out yesterday after opening a complaint with the dealer, that they got there from Weaver auto parts, and the Indiana shop got theirs from Carquest. I would love to have a OEM radiator, but apparently, they are harder to find than the culprit behind my fuel supply/ignition problems. The Toyota dealer put one in this february when I had numerous oil seal failures and had most of the coolant system replaced as well. The indiana shop put one in last week when the "toyota" one developed a fracture at the base of the filler neck, likely in part from the pressure of the hood pressing on it.

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