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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 09:29 AM
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coil over LCA's on a t-bar truck

Anyone ever swap a set of Coil-over LCA's onto a 2nd gen 4Runner or equivalent truck? I was looking at the set I have and doing a few measurements.

Here's what I have found. It looks like the distance from the lower ball joint to the pivot point is 1-2" further. The problem I see is that the lower ball joint on the coil-over LCA is set back a little further than the t-bar LCA Because the ball joint is off-center to the rear on the coil-over LCA whereas the ball joint is off-center to the front on the t-bar LCA. I didn't spend a lot of time with this, but from the general measurements that I took if I ran these on the opposite sides than what they were made for, then the caster would increase. This is not always benificial since running larger tires creates more caster.

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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 09:34 AM
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Lots of work for minimal gain. You would still have the same bumpstops and thusly the same travel.

Not to mention in the t-bar trucks, the upper takes the load. In the coilover, the lower does. You would be completly re-engineering the arms, the spindle and what loads they saw.

My truck rides decent with 25mm t-bars, BJ spacers and no real loading of the bars.

Novel? Yes. Worth it? IMHO, heck no, but good luck.
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 11:07 AM
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Maybe I'm missing some of your point, but the intention would be to leave the t-bar UCA's in place since they DO take the load. The t-bar LCA's are locating (and minor load bearing - shocks) and therefore replacing them with coil-over LCA's should be minimal. The only advantage I see is the increased track width and increased droop (the increased droop is in combination with BJS). Track width may be a problem when using BJS since they pull the upper BJ in a little when sitting static (compared to stock) and even more when at full droop. The other issue I foresee is that the CV's may attempt to come apart since the track width has increased.

I'm not sure this would work, I guess I was just thinking out loud. Thanks for the feedback.

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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 01:12 PM
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I assumed you meant the arms so you could end up with a coilover instead of a torsion bar.

Just the arm? Not sure I get the benefit. People have discussed swapping to T-100 stock upper and lower arms for a cheap, factory long arm, long travel IFS, but I am not sure anyone has done that.
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Flygtenstein
I assumed you meant the arms so you could end up with a coilover instead of a torsion bar.

Just the arm? Not sure I get the benefit. People have discussed swapping to T-100 stock upper and lower arms for a cheap, factory long arm, long travel IFS, but I am not sure anyone has done that.
I have always wondered if the T100 arms are longer then the 4Runners and trucks. I can get a set quite easily so i may have to try this out.
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 05:32 AM
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I have always wondered if the T100 arms are longer then the 4Runners and trucks. I can get a set quite easily so i may have to try this out.
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You'll want to get the T100 CV's also. Oh yeah, grab the two tie rods too and you should be set.
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 914runner
I have always wondered if the T100 arms are longer then the 4Runners and trucks. I can get a set quite easily so i may have to try this out.
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The CV's are longer, so the A-Arms "probably" are too.
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Cebby
The CV's are longer, so the A-Arms "probably" are too.
True, I never thought of it that way. I will check on a price next time im at the yard.
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