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Old Dec 15, 2014 | 04:48 PM
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I have searched... No power/No start. DWD.

Hello Yotatech!

I have searched on this forum and on the web for possible answers and leads but can't figure this out. My truck died while I was driving it the other day and I can't get it started again. It's a 1981 Pickup SR5 4wd that is mostly stock. I did the weber 32/36 conversion, k&n filter, and Doug Thorley headers.

I'm a bit of a newbie when it comes to 4x4ing and pickup trucks in general but it finally rained in southern calIfornia and I got excited. I took my truck to where I could find some mud and gave it a test run. I hit a few puddles here and there and one of them was a little deep but nothing I was concerned about; I didn't flood the cab or get water in my carburetor. The truck did stall out for a second at one point and then kept running fine (maybe a little, little on the rough side) the rest of the night. I got sick and came out to start it the next day and there was no power, just a tick. I think I left the lights on but not too sure; I was a valet for 10 years...I probably turned them off. My neighbor jumped me and off I went to the dr. The sensor and battery light were on foabout30 seconds and then clicked off. I stalled or it stalled at a light but started right back up and the battery light cleared again. It started fine after the dr. and then didn't want to crank after the grocery store. I tried again 3 minutes later and it fired up. The sensor light came on one more time with the battery light but shut off again and didn't come back on.


A week and a half later after I got better I went out for a cruise this weekend. After a couple of hours and a few stops here and there I pulled over to look at a view and left it running. When I got back in 2 minutes later it sounded like my blinkers were flashing but I didn't have them on nor would they cancel out. Then my fuel gauge started going to zero and so went the rest of my dash. I lost my tach, voltmeter, oil pressure gauges and all. My hazards went out and so did my lights. Then my truck started running rougher and rougher. Next I started to lose engine power and it backfired a few times. Then everything went out and I couldn't restart it. There were a few moments where it sounded like something was shorting out but there was not any odor or smoke to provide a clue where, just somewhere behind the radio and heater controls. I did use the defroster for the first time since I have owned it when I was out playing in the mud.

My first thought was, "great, my alternator just quit." I took my battery out and put it on the battery tender as soon as I got home. It charged for about 14 hours and finally gave a green light. I had it off the charger while I was at work and it read 13v when I got home today. I put it in my truck and it read at 9v on my voltmeter. That's odd. I checked my dash lights and tried cranking it anyways to no avail on either. I went ahead and checked the fuses, fusible links, and power to the starter. I also checked my ignition switch. Everything showed lower than 12v but so did the battery. At some point a few of the lights in my cluster came on (the brake light and I don't remember the other but it was kinda insignificant a not the sensor or battery lights). It still won't crank or tick. My battery is back on the charger again.

I am hesitant to think it is just the battery/alternator problem. The battery is a 1 year old optima yellow top that's always treated me well and the alternator is the same age but re manufactured. If it were a bad alternator I should still be able to start it and test for that off a charged battery.

I was pretty easy on her but did I do something stupid when I went playing in the mud and rain?
Is there anything else anyone can think of to check?

I'm trying to avoid "the man" here....

Thanks,
Nathan Price
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Old Dec 15, 2014 | 06:00 PM
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When I was putting my truck back together I forgot to bolt the ground wire on my dash harness and it did some weird stuff, I think checking all the grounds is a good thing to check on old cars like this, maybe you shook something loose when playing in the mud.
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Old Dec 15, 2014 | 06:06 PM
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check your fuse links , right off of the positive post of the battery ..

give them a "tug" if they break there toast


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Old Dec 23, 2014 | 10:20 AM
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Also check your grounding wire from the battery. I actually put a new one from the engine to the battery, and a new one from the battery to the right fender well ground mount (cleaned it up before I installed it). Then check the cable that goes to the starter if that still doesn't help. These rust up and then one day..."click"
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Old Dec 23, 2014 | 02:08 PM
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Your starter could be full of water causing a non-catastrophic short. try unhooking the starter and see if the battery maintains voltage when hooked up to the truck.
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