Found a blown 22RE motor (rod thru block), from a 1982 Celica, and was curious if I could use it for parts on the 22r for my '84 pickup. im mainly interested in the exhaust manifold, but could eventually do the EFI swap when I had the time/resources. Are the ports shaped differently or will the manifold be interchangeable?

I can probably get the whole engine for around $100-140, so if the parts are useable, then it would be worthwile.

 

Blocks are the same. I believe the manifold is a little different and might would work. 82 cars and trucks was a 22r which is carbed. Celicas had a fuel injection motor but I have not seen one in 84. The 84 truck was carburated. Toyota did not fuel inject the trucks til 85.

 

Be careful here 1984 was the crossover year.

Thing is From what I hear it did not go by a serial number cut off date.

You could get the new style or the old style

Does your truck engine have the double row timing chain?

Is it even the original Engine??

 

not exactly sure if mine has a single or double timing chain.
any way to easily determine besides taking things apart?


I know mine says it was manufactured in March of '84... don't know if that helps..

 

if it is March of 84 then it is an early block ... laser blocks weren't produced until August of /84


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Well thats good to know, hopefully this narrows my search. I went to look at the engine that wasb for sale, and the engines didnt look too similar.

Also, as fate would have it, im pretty sure my transmission is hanging . On to its dear life. Has no power whatsoever. Takes such a long time to get any speed in ANY gear, even first. Smelled like something was burnt.

I guess im just not meant to drive this little toy :/

 

The 84 and older blocks are really different from the 85 and newer. You can use either motor if you do a complete swap, but the parts are not interchangeable with each other.

I did try to fuel inject an 84 motor and unless you wanted to spend a lot on machine work and even then it may still not be possible to fuel inject an 84. The head holes that mount the injected intake was almost complete oppisite. Also no place for a Knock Sensor and a place for a fuel filter which those two items you could work around.

You can tell the difference in the exhaust side of the heads. 84s have round exhaust ports and the 85 has a pear shaped exhaust port.

 

Below is the pictures of my experience of trying to convert the early style block to EFI. The bottom two pictures I am trying to show how the intake bolt holes don't match to the head and the intake bolt holes are different from each other as well. I read that you could convert an older block and with a lot of machine work it might be possible but from what I tried to do, it was not possible, and really not sure what would happen even if I had the bolt holes machined in the head on how the injectors would line up and if the head would accept them.

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I got my Timing Chain on and had to replace the Timing Cover due to it being worn. I tried to use a early model 22r and they wont interchange. Thought I would put some info up to help others identify what they may have.

84 and older. 22r has no dimples/circles and the number "2" on it. Twistedyota got it right on the height thing, see the last picture for a good example. I also tried to mark which bolt holes for removing the timing cover on down the road when I have to do a chain again. Hope it wont burn off but it if does I tried to come up with an easier way. Never can remember which bolts they are.


22re has "6k" and dimples/circles. 85 and up.


Here is what I am talking about on the 1/8th inch height. I used a lockwasher to help show how much of a difference. This cover is 22r. Seems like the oil pump bolts were to short. Hope this will save some one some trouble. It is an early model 22r timing cover on a newer 22re block.


Here is a intake manifold that I used for my 86 Runner and something wasn't right on it and had to use another. The first stud up by the fuel pump lines up but nearly all of the rest don't as you get further to the back of the motor.

 

Another thing while that water pumps will bolt up the impeller length is different .

Just thing changing the water pump getting it all bolted back up and coolant in and it does not turn because the impeller is pulled tight against the timing cover.

That was a long time ago part boxed wrong.

 

Anybody have a part no. For the exhaust manifold with the ports for the Air Injection tube that mounts ON TOP of the manifold, and NOT against the head? I think I read that its an 'older style' manifold?

The injection tube on my truck has the holes and clamps facing down..

Edit- looks like the one in this image:
http://www.toyotapartsoverstock.com/images/parts/toyota/fullsize/MA3400C.jpg

 

the early block 22re = 1983 celica, 1984 celica, 1984 pickup