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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 06:31 PM
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check out my 22re head.. something wrong yo!!! "Pic Added"

This is not normal for me so I will let you be the judge. I had my brother dropped off my head to Ron Machine Shop in Fresno, Ca and about 2 hrs later this is how it looked. Was to be Pressure and resurface. My engine had about 80k original miles and head gasket was change due to a possible water leak from headers, drinking coolant, and slight milky oil cap..

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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 06:33 PM
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Photos aren't showing up...
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 06:36 PM
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working on it
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 07:01 PM
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I tried to post them also..weird. Use photobucket, seems a lot easier to use. But below is a link to them



ok...you got it, removed the pics from here.

Looks like a heck of a lot of pitting!

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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 07:19 PM
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Thank you!!! I just got it working as well. Flickr is a little different I guess. Any thanks buddy...
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 10:00 PM
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how do you get a water leak from headers?
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 10:11 PM
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Well it leaks out of the head and you go Errr Uhh obviously
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 12:06 AM
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Red face

You get a head like this from not changing the coolant or running plain water for to long.

What did the Machine shop advise you to do??
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 03:31 AM
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Run it, if your not resurfacing block or timing cover and not digging into to bearings after contaminated oil. Then your on burrowed time and probably have serious engine issues in the future. Run it till she dies then replace.
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by wyoming9
You get a head like this from not changing the coolant or running plain water for to long.

What did the Machine shop advise you to do??
Originally Posted by muddpigg
Run it, if your not resurfacing block or timing cover and not digging into to bearings after contaminated oil. Then your on burrowed time and probably have serious engine issues in the future. Run it till she dies then replace.
Good advice.
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 03:05 PM
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Don't run it.
Waste of money.
I did a headgasket job on my 22re two years ago. The head surface looked like that. Rough holes for the water jacket. They will wrinkle the head gasket and you'll be replacing it once again in 15-25k km (km not miles).
Get a different head. Unless you like changing head gaskets and tossing money away.

The head's mating surface should just about be a mirror. If it looks like someone took sandpaper/grinder to it, I would take it back. There are two schools of thought on this, rough (and use sealing compound) or mirror-like (just gasket). On the 22re head, smoother and more mirror-like, the better.

What's the condition on the cylinder walls? Can you catch a fingernail on the inside where the rings get to their highest point?
No catching at all, just smooth, you're all clear.
Doesn't catch but you can feel the ridge, you'll be good for another couple years.
Catches your fingernail, you're probably blowing blue smoke and she won't last much longer.
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by wyoming9
You get a head like this from not changing the coolant or running plain water for to long.

What did the Machine shop advise you to do??
Drop by the machine shop this morning was given a resurfacing and pressurize 101 by one of the guys there. He told me everything if fine and nothing to worried about. The long markings are design to show how many times more I can resurface the head. It dont look very much BTW... I also ran this issue through 2 of my buddies who are mechanics that has their own shops, and both who had worked on 22re told me it was okay as long as the pressure test was good. Which it was..

As for the cylinder walls, its smooth as baby bottom. Its clean and seems to be fine.

This motor had about 80k original miles, and when all this occur, it was still running like a champ. It would drink 1 pint of coolant every 200 miles or so.. and random coolant/water would drip from the header flanges (head flanges leak). Enough liquid to say that its not condensation. But will dissappear once the engine warmed up. Under the oil cap there were small amount of milky look oil trapped under there. Which led me to change my HG. It after all knowing all this ran like champed and pull like a champ. there were no other major symptoms. Over heated occur 2-3 times. But when the engine is turn off and coolant added it can be driven for hours....

As for the engine and long term, Im forecasting and hoping another 6-12 months. As I have plans for a 1uz auto adapted to my current dual cases..

Here's a previous picture:

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What you don't see that is recently added, are TG front bumper no stinger, pair of KC high lites, winch, MC sliders, ARB F/R, 5.29, TG Dirty 30's, diff gaurds f/r, duals, 2.28x4.70 (mc), Ford Tauras Fan MOD, CB radio and antenna, and lots of LED interior lights and reverse lights...
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 08:39 PM
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Nice truck! How many miles you plan on putting on it within that 12 months? Hopefully you can get through that one year period if you choose to assemble as is.

Can I have your 22re after your done with it? doesn't hurt to ask! I'll pick up!
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Grego92
Nice truck! How many miles you plan on putting on it within that 12 months? Hopefully you can get through that one year period if you choose to assemble as is.

Can I have your 22re after your done with it? doesn't hurt to ask! I'll pick up!
last year i probly did 20k miles during hunting and fishing season. othere than that it was a weekend warrior... u cant have it, but u can buy it...
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Old Mar 27, 2013 | 03:32 AM
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Nice truck, I remember no body damage, PNW trails.
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Old Mar 27, 2013 | 07:14 AM
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thanks! i like to keep my rig clean and try not to beat it all the time..
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 01:20 PM
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can anyone confirm if those markings by the water ports can allow coolant to acess my motor??
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 04:57 PM
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"It passed the pressure test" is about the best recommendation you're going to get. Like someone else said I probably wouldn't run that head and just have it replaced. But that's just an opinion and personal preference.

If it passed the tests it's good to go.
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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 05:45 PM
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Glad to hear the head is still useable. And that's one nice looking runner you have there. More pics please!!
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