Upgrading diffs...limited slip or no?
#1
Upgrading diffs...limited slip or no?
i'm upgrading my front IFS and rear differentials from 4.10 to 4.56 (not gonna go any bigger than 31" tires) and was wondering if limited slip is an option?
i know lockers are popular, but i don't think i need a locker for my driving habits. my rig is my daily driver and i only do moderate offroading, no crawling or seriously heavy duty stuff.
what does everyone think? worth it? is it possible? LSD in both front and rear, or only rear?
i also think i'm gonna swap out my ADD axle tube for a non-ADD tube since i installed manual hubs. i was gonna just disable the ADD but a solid axle sounds better to me.
i know lockers are popular, but i don't think i need a locker for my driving habits. my rig is my daily driver and i only do moderate offroading, no crawling or seriously heavy duty stuff.
what does everyone think? worth it? is it possible? LSD in both front and rear, or only rear?
i also think i'm gonna swap out my ADD axle tube for a non-ADD tube since i installed manual hubs. i was gonna just disable the ADD but a solid axle sounds better to me.
#3
I think a TrueTrac front and rear would make a nice driving truck. Not a hard core off-roader, but could handle most trails and the limited slip will help out in most cases, on and off pavement.
#5
not super deep pockets, but i have saved up a little bit to get the right setup without cutting corners.
after reading this review, http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/TrueTrac.shtml#Impressions, i am thinking maybe i only will do the true trac up front.
my thoughts are this:
- while on the road i am in 2WD, rear diff remains as an open diff, helps driving (don't have to worry about turns under power pushing the truck straight or breaking the inside wheel out)
- when off road, i switch to 4WD and utilize the front true trac for some extra grip
my main reason for limited slip is because most of my need for this is due to sand (i live in the southwest and go to the desert often). in deep sand if one tire sinks and the other doesn't, it mimics the effect of having a tire in the air. a limited slip up front would help pull me out of this situation.
after reading this review, http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/TrueTrac.shtml#Impressions, i am thinking maybe i only will do the true trac up front.
my thoughts are this:
- while on the road i am in 2WD, rear diff remains as an open diff, helps driving (don't have to worry about turns under power pushing the truck straight or breaking the inside wheel out)
- when off road, i switch to 4WD and utilize the front true trac for some extra grip
my main reason for limited slip is because most of my need for this is due to sand (i live in the southwest and go to the desert often). in deep sand if one tire sinks and the other doesn't, it mimics the effect of having a tire in the air. a limited slip up front would help pull me out of this situation.
#6
Because you will have both diffs out for the gear change, I suggest putting a TrueTrac in both diffs. The truetrac is amazingly smooth. I have one in back and love it. We know these trucks are not fast but I appreciate the rear truetrac every day. It really puts the limited power down on the road. They have none of the drivability concerns auto lockers have.
I'd like to put a truetrac in the front as well someday.
I'd like to put a truetrac in the front as well someday.
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#8
this is the way to go right here ifs 8in lsd diff
http://toyotasurf.asn.au/forum/viewt...light=supralux
http://toyotasurf.asn.au/forum/viewt...light=supralux
#9
amen thats a sick ifs setup im seriously thinking about it now because some of the stuff he has done to it in the videos is just amazing for an ifs really thinking about it now. i was asking about the v6 rearend because i didnt know if they came with lsd or no
#11
I've had a TruTrac in my 2003 Tacoma ADD front diff since 2005 or 2006 and never been happy with it. In 4wd, the truck pulls to one side pretty badly, which you compensate for by turning the wheel, and when you let off the gas, you have to immediately correct your steering. It's caused some near accidents.
On icy roads or slick conditions, the LSD will not adjust when turning and it causes front end sliding similar to that of a full locker. About 1 year ago, I had some terrible clunking in the front end and the diff makes lots of friction noise as well. I need to pull the diff and see what is going on in there.
4wheel parts sold and installed everything and has not cared one bit about the issues, which I brought to their attention in week 1. I figured the TT was doing something, so I just kept trucking... however, I contacted Eaton who make the Detroit TT and the head Tech said they do not make a product for Tacomas with ADD front ends (which I believe someone pointed out already). Makes me wonder what 4 wheel parts put in my truck and what warranty you would get considering the product is not made for the vehicle per Eaton.
I think I will go with a manual locker of some sort or just keep the diff open. My unimog has front and rear air lockers, and it's really my play truck anyway.
On icy roads or slick conditions, the LSD will not adjust when turning and it causes front end sliding similar to that of a full locker. About 1 year ago, I had some terrible clunking in the front end and the diff makes lots of friction noise as well. I need to pull the diff and see what is going on in there.
4wheel parts sold and installed everything and has not cared one bit about the issues, which I brought to their attention in week 1. I figured the TT was doing something, so I just kept trucking... however, I contacted Eaton who make the Detroit TT and the head Tech said they do not make a product for Tacomas with ADD front ends (which I believe someone pointed out already). Makes me wonder what 4 wheel parts put in my truck and what warranty you would get considering the product is not made for the vehicle per Eaton.
I think I will go with a manual locker of some sort or just keep the diff open. My unimog has front and rear air lockers, and it's really my play truck anyway.
#12
Sounds like something is not working right. I ran a front TT in my '85 for a few years and it was wonderful. I also have a similar type LSD in my FWD VW (a Quaiffe torsen type) and it works awesome. The slipprier the road the better it works.
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