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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 05:27 PM
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Tube bending q's

hey,

why cant you use a pipe bender(china freight) to bend tubing? does it crease it or not bend it right or what?
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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Re: Tube bending q's

Originally posted by wimpywade94
hey,

why cant you use a pipe bender(china freight) to bend tubing? does it crease it ?

wade
Yes
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 03:08 AM
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Seeing as how 1" pipe is 1-3/8" o.d., can you see how you'd kink 1" tube on a 1" pipe bender. In order to prevent kinking, it needs to have tight support on the sides of the bends. I suppose you probably could bend bend 1-3/8" tube on a 1" pipe bender but I've never tried it. Those sizes are used as examples but it holds true through all sizes. Since pipe is measured buy nominal i.d., the o.d. will be significanty greater than the same size tube (which is measured by true o.d.).

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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 10:55 AM
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The OD will be different so I would say no...don't do it. But, If you are gonna try anyway, fill the tube with dirt and duct-tape the ends to keep the tube from collapsing.
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 04:27 PM
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yeah thats what i figured, i heard about filling the tube with sand and capping the ends, i was just curiouse, the way it looks i may just have a cage built not try it myself, the bumpers i will probably try though.

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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 04:30 PM
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Just build a cage out of pipe. My friend built his whole buggy out of pipe....its not the lightest thing but its strong.
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 05:53 PM
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You can also rent a tube bender. A guy in my club did that for the cage of his sammy.
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 06:34 PM
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You can also rent a tube bender. A guy in my club did that for the cage of his sammy.

From who or what company??
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 07:39 PM
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I didn't ask, but I assumed a hardware store. I can ask him at the next meeting, but that's a couple weeks off.
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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 05:11 AM
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that would be great. Hardware stores around here don't carry that kind of equipment, much less a full set of nuts and bolts....
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 10:29 AM
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pipe is cast, vs hot or cold rolled steel, and can be brittle.

that said, PMurf1 had a full exo built from 1.5" pipe he built on a pipe bender, and it held up pretty well. (search for PMurf1 on the Toy board on Pirate 4x4)
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by crawler#976
pipe is cast, vs hot or cold rolled steel, and can be brittle.

that said, PMurf1 had a full exo built from 1.5" pipe he built on a pipe bender, and it held up pretty well. (search for PMurf1 on the Toy board on Pirate 4x4)
Descendants now has Pat's exo and there is a recent thread highlighting the install of the exo.
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 11:02 AM
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Not all pipe is cast, in fact only a small percentage of pipe used today is cast anymore. Cast pipe cannot be bent anyway. I work everyday with pipe, it is all hot-rolled. Would I use the stuff for a cage? Never. For sliders and armor that my life is not dependant on? Sure, why not.
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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 07:29 AM
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Are their such things as inexpensive pipe benders under $1000 that can bend the pipe well without screwing it up?

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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 08:15 AM
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Originally posted by ravencr
Are their such things as inexpensive pipe benders under $1000 that can bend the pipe well without screwing it up?

Chris
How many places are you going to ask this question?

See the other thread. BTW, you want a tubing bender, not a pipe bender - big difference!
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 02:51 PM
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What's the difference? I thought they were synomous with each other, but I would love to hear about the differences, because I'm in the dark with this stuff, obviously.

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Old Jan 14, 2004 | 08:08 AM
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From who or what company??
Ok, I got the skinny on what the guy did. It turns out he rented a pipe bender and used schedule 40 pipe for his cage. I guess it was a really nice pipe bender though (like $5000 ) which he rented for $100 for a 3 day weekend. He got it from some pipe place and he also got the pipe for about $1 per foot.

Oh well.
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Old Jan 14, 2004 | 08:25 AM
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What's the difference? I thought they were synomous with each other, but I would love to hear about the differences, because I'm in the dark with this stuff, obviously.

Chris
I guess one way to describe it is that a pipe bender pushes a die against the pipe to form it, while a bender draws the tubing around the die. With thinner wall material in a pipe bender, you will get wrinkling of the tube on the inside radius.
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Old Jan 14, 2004 | 08:29 AM
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So I'm guessing that the tube bender is the better way to go, right?

Chris
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Old Jan 14, 2004 | 08:31 AM
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Hey. Wimpywade...that pic of you in 8th grade in ur site.. Is that a 2000-2001 cocker?
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