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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 11:40 PM
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Need some assistance picking a lift kit/setup

So this is what I've got.

84 4runner
22r/20r
will have front and rear tube bumpers
have 33x12.5 tires (will install once I find which gears I want)
Will have bushwacker fender flares soon to accommodate the added tire width

Mostly stock at this time, I have just been working to fix everything on it and get it 100% mechanically sound before moving on to the good stuff. I have pretty much reached that point now and just picked up the tires a couple days back. Now is the time to pick a lift kit/setup.

I'm looking for something that will allow good articulation, won't dwarf my 33's (ha ha), and I will probably be putting a new engine in this thing in the years to come (not anytime real soon though). It will be a v8, so if possible to have something that can accommodate heavier springs in the future w/o changing much then great, if I have to redo all in the front then so be it. Just trying to look ahead a little.

I have touched on this subject a little in a different thread that had to do with tires, and a few things had come up.

There is the budget kit here:

http://www.roughcountry.com/toyota_4wd_79-85_3.html
Anyone have experience or input on this for my application?


I hear OME has a good setup as well, however I'm not sure on which setup would be best for what I want to do. Any input?

There is also the setup that TG, Wabfab, MC and Allpro have. If I remember correctly they seem to be pretty similar.

Any help would be great.
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 04:41 AM
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With 33s, OME 2" lift spring kit.

The classic lift kits like I sell will dwarf 33s.

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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 06:45 AM
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x2 on the OME lift. Anything above a 3in lift will make 33's look like donuts.

As for gears, 4.88's is what i would go for.
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 09:33 AM
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x3 on the ome leafs...wouldnt have done it any other way. my build thread has some pics i think
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 09:36 AM
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Are 3" springs needed for high steer?

Socal, do you have the entire OME lift kit? I noticed you have the 3" springs and 5" shackles. Do you have more info on what else you ordered up from OME?

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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by live4soccer7
Are 3" springs needed for high steer?

Socal, do you have the entire OME lift kit? I noticed you have the 3" springs and 5" shackles. Do you have more info on what else you ordered up from OME?
The springs i have on my truck are OME 4runner springs. I bought the springs and bushings from ome thats all. 5" Shackles are from TG(shortest ones they sell which are still 1 1/2'' over stock. This is the minimum amount of lift you need to clear hi-steer i believe. I love this setup.
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 11:12 AM
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What shock setup are you running?
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by live4soccer7
What shock setup are you running?
12" bilsteins in the front and 10" bilsteins in the rear. Im running the rear shocks in the stock configuration.
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 12:45 PM
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I would think that the 4runner would need to be a little more supported in the back. What are people's thoughts on the creeper joint shackle mount for a little better flex? I think I'm going to be going with a similar setup as to what you have socal, just seems to be exactly what I'm looking for. Modest lift with 33's with the ability to install high steer.

What is it about the OME setup that everyone likes? Is it the shocks, leafs or just the entire thing? Seem to hear a lot about them online.

Where'd you purchase your OME springs and bushings?
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by live4soccer7
I would think that the 4runner would need to be a little more supported in the back. What are people's thoughts on the creeper joint shackle mount for a little better flex? I think I'm going to be going with a similar setup as to what you have socal, just seems to be exactly what I'm looking for. Modest lift with 33's with the ability to install high steer.

What is it about the OME setup that everyone likes? Is it the shocks, leafs or just the entire thing? Seem to hear a lot about them online.

Where'd you purchase your OME springs and bushings?

i never used their shocks but the leafs in particular are sweeeeeet. I got all my OME parts at 4wheelparts.
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 01:10 PM
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Right on.... I'm going to start putting together the parts list before ordering everything. did you go with the standard shackle mounts or the creeper joints? Seems like the creeper joints would be the way to go, but I'm new to all this and am just learning about suspension.
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 01:14 PM
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Creeper joints require welding on new mounts for rear shackle mount.

I did the OME stuff on Barney. For the price and ride, I won't ever do it again. Classic lift is so much better and not much difference in price, but I can weld too.

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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 01:16 PM
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Hmm... Not seeing the springs you were talking about:

http://www.4wheelparts.com/Lift-Kits...13&t_pl=103901
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 01:18 PM
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I can weld as well, so that's not a issue.
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 01:22 PM
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I didn't like the OME ride compared to the longer springs in the lift kits like I sell. OME was stiff and harsh, even after break in time. They are pretty much bolt on so that's a plus for a lot of people but by the time you buy OME, shackles, shocks, high steer steering kit, IFS box, you are at the price of a front and rear lift kit. If you can weld for yourself you should consider it. With a regear just go 5.29s and get some 35s and sell your 33s. Just food for thought.

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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 01:25 PM
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I just got those 33's a couple days back. hmmm.... you present a valid point. Damn. ha ha.

Are the different spring sizes interchangeable once the shackle mounts for the 3" are mounted? Just wondering if I could simply swap out springs in the future if I need to.

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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 01:32 PM
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I bought the rebuild kit from ya a while back for the knuckles, can I opt out of that part on the kit?
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 01:37 PM
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In theory that should work out but it's not always reality.

Done similar things with other orders so not an issue.

Check your email. Sent you a PDF of OME applications.

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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 01:39 PM
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Yeah, I hear ya on that. Thanks for the input on this.
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 01:57 PM
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Wabbit is very good at what he does, his barney build was the inpiration for my truck. About the rough ride...i find it hard to believe. My truck rides better than a cadillac...i couldnt have imagined a smoother ride from OME leafs IMO. From a 1/2 mph to as fast as you want its been phenominal for me. My truck is my DD also.
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