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rear brake seized when i tried to take off the drum now it wont turn at all!

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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 02:09 PM
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rear brake seized when i tried to take off the drum now it wont turn at all!

well, i was trying to investigate a squeal from my rear bake and somehow i seized the wheel. the other side turns. tried adjusting the pad gear with a screwdriver in both directions and stripped the bolt holes in the front of the drum. any have any ideas how to get the drum off so i can fix this preoblem?
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 02:14 PM
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what did you strip? I know you said bolt holes but which one. Pic would help. and the only way is to back off on the adjuster or pray when you use the hammer
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 02:28 PM
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well.. 2 small scew drivers.... one to carefully push the locking tap out of the way and the other to carefully let off the adjustment on the drums. Also try to carefully pound the drum back on flush to the hub.
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 04:12 PM
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stripped the last resort threaded holes in the front of the drum that push it off the hub.

i tried several times with the small screwdrivers and even some small pliers. turned the adjuster both ways as far as it would go with no luck...
pretty sure the whole assembly is screwed now.

i used about 10 screwdrivers around the edge to pry the drum off with no luck either.

whatever the original squeal was it must have been responsible for the brakes on that wheel seizing. i have no idea how i will get it off now. i need to get to work tomorrow...
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 04:16 PM
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theres definately some broken pieces rattling around in there...
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 04:37 PM
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how are you rattling the brake drum around if it's seized up?


Mine did this to be the first time I ever did the rear brakes on my 91 PU... and once I finally beat the drum into submission, I found a nice deep groove on the inside of the drum, due to 280k+ miles of braking on them The pads were sticking to and hanging on the lip at the inner edge


Try pounding the brake drum back on, like you're installing it, and see if the shoes will release then; there might be too much tension on them to move at all right now, since the shoes are jamed to the drum.
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 05:03 PM
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ahhh, good call. i did have a corner of the pads exposed at one point. that sounds pretty logical. a buddy from work drove my truck from vancouver to coquitlam (aprx. 15km) with my e-brake on. i'm sure that did damage.

if i cant get them to release is there any other way to get the drum off, aside from cutting it? haha
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 05:08 PM
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lol, a BFH


I actually ended up being able to pry mine off with several LARGE flat-head screw drivers, and bent the hell out of the backing plate at the same time but that was relitively easy to straighten back out




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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 05:09 PM
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Take a sledge to the drums, just dont hit the studs.
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 05:12 PM
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You could tap the last resort holes to fit a larger bolt and just use them again if you have a tap and die set. Or just beat on the thing with a brass face hammer. When hammering try to work your way around it and hammer kinda toward youself to slowly wiggle it off. Then when you have any hint of something to pry on stick a crowbar in there and just start jimmying it until you make some progress.
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 05:15 PM
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lol, sry, I had too
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 08:32 PM
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Man, that guy has got to be in his 70s by now. ^^^

On topic, I agree with the ridge idea. Sounds like its just wedged really, really good.
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 06:11 AM
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I know you said the other side turns, but is the parking brake released?
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 10:35 AM
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I just used a large rubber hammer all the way round for about 45 minutes working my way around and around and stopped to wrestle with it every minute or two. It worked. I did do some prying every once and i while but it didn't seem to do nearly as much as the persistent hammering.

Good Luck!
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by thedanned
Man, that guy has got to be in his 70s by now. ^^^

On topic, I agree with the ridge idea. Sounds like its just wedged really, really good.
lol, I know, but he still cracks me up, with that Seldge-O-Matic



any update?
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 04:51 PM
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I FIGURED OUT THE PROBLEM!

the p/o or someone he hired installed the adjuster and locking lever backwards!
the one marked "R" was on the left in behind the adjuster... no wonder turning it didnt work.

anyway the drums are off now with pretty minor damage to most components.
since its raining, it all goes back together tomorrow.
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 05:23 PM
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while you're in there, it's not a bad idea to go ahead and install new everything like shoes, spings, wheel cylinder, etc...

but then again, I've been know to be a "while you're in there" kinda of person on more than one occation



good job btw!


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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 02:08 PM
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cheers for all the advice guys!
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