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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 11:10 AM
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Unhappy Head gasket? White smoke at start

hello everyone i have a 1986 toyoa pickup 22re i bout with 96k on it from the 2nd owner it was sitting for a while.. i thins its the seals in the motors because when it first starts all the smoke that comes out is white.. after a couple minutes it goes away... im most likely gonna replace the head gasket alon with everything but untill then any ideas on what it can be.. thanks!
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 11:17 AM
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Both my trucks do that when it's cold.
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 11:27 AM
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hello everyone i have a 1986 toyoa pickup 22re i bout with 96k on it from the 2nd owner it was sitting for a while.. i thins its the seals in the motors because when it first starts all the smoke that comes out is white.. after a couple minutes it goes away... im most likely gonna replace the head gasket alon with everything but untill then any ideas on what it can be.. thanks!
Its cold out side, so the white smoke at start up is normal. If it keeps smoking alot even after its warmed up then you have a problem.
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 11:49 AM
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yeah i would expect the white because of the cold but its heavy and you can tell its not warm up smoke... and also when i check the oil it smells like gas..
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 12:07 PM
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Compression test, look at your plugs
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 12:29 PM
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As said above, do a compression test. Have you noticed your coolant level going down ?, if so then its either a bad head gasket or cracked head.
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 12:38 PM
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Chances are its more or so likely your head gasket then a cracked head. I can almost bet on it that once you change out your head gasket out then you will for surely notice the difference.. i cant see it having a cracked head unless it was thrashed pretty good... Yota heads are pretty good about that. so my best bet is... your head gasket is just old after sitting for so long...
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 12:46 PM
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Thank you every one... i drove the truck home 3 hours without a problem... the heat was working then it went away.. but it doesnt over heat.. i also replaced the thermostat.. so most likely the head gasket... i also replaced the plugs
1. is perfect
2.is always wet with gas
3.is same as 2
4. is really dry and black..
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 06:19 PM
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based on the last post you might want to get the injectors cleaned (try a bottle of fuel additive first before you fork out for a removal and heavy clean) but other than that white smoke on start is perfectly normal for this time of year in the "balmy" NE winter weather lol... if it was summer maybe you'd have a concern if it was a hot dry day but a little smoke is normal for a cool damp evening even in summer... it's just the condensation "boiling" out of the system as it warms up...

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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 03:01 AM
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thanks everyone i have found out that it is a bad head gasket... since im taking it all out i already purchased a new head with everything in it.. thanks for the help
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 09:15 AM
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What was the determining factor in your "finding" out it was the head gasket? Have you been losing coolant? Does the oil look like a french vanilla milkshake? those would be the big indicators of a blown head gasket. Loss of coolant and it has to go one of two places, out the exhaust or into the oil. Just my thoughts.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 03:52 PM
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yes the oil looked like a french vanilla milk shake lol and it was going in the out and out the muffler..
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 01:38 PM
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thanks everyone i finally started my rebuild.. i got my new head and all new gaskets here are some pics



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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 03:52 PM
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That thing is looking good for an east coast yota (no rust)
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 05:44 PM
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Mine smokes on startup but I'm pretty sure its not coolant, but oil. Coolant level doesn't really drop but it does use oil. Someone has suggested that the valves are leaky and there is leakdown when it sits. When I start it up, I am just burning off the oil? Just for peace of mind, is the best start a compression test? I had the spark plugs replaced as part of a big tune-up last year and have probably driven it a total of 7k since then. Its a 91 pick-up with 277k.
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 11:54 AM
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Same here. My exhaust smells sickly sweet, loosing coolant, surges sometimes at idle (low coolant), condensation on the oil cap, misfire sometimes on warm-up, low coolant but the spill over tank (?) bubbles like it is boiling, heck you can see exhaust gas when the radiator cap is off. Oh lets not forget the white smoke.

Just ordered new gasket and head bolts from the stealer, gasket is $46.00 and the bolts $7.00 each. I know your supposed to be able to reuse the 22re bolts, but why risk it. I just did the timing chain (Haaadddd to) 4000 miles ago. Could have replaced head then but tried to save a dime and now I have to spend a dollar. If anyone near nashville tn would like to do the work, you know for the experience and warm belly feeling, come on over, all the beer you can drink.

Having the head worked Monday, gasket in on Tuesday, see you Wednesday night.
176,000 miles, 22re, I love that truck!
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