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Side mirrors on 96-98 4Runner, 99-00 4runner, and 01-02 4Runner, what's different???

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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 08:36 AM
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Side mirrors on 96-98 4Runner, 99-00 4runner, and 01-02 4Runner, what's different???

Ok, I'm working on have signal mirrors made for 4Runners. The kind that are built flush into the surface of the glass, like on many new vehicles.

I'm trying to find out when the glass changed on the stock mirrors.

From what I'm hearing, 96-98 mirror housing and glass were the same.

For 99-00, the mirror housing changed, but supossedly the glass shape didn't change?

For 01-02 I'm told the glass shape changed, not sure if mirror housing is same shape as 99-00 though.

Can some shed some light on this ormaybe post pics of the housings and mirror glass???

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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 08:56 AM
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The interchange is actually 96-5/99, and 6/99-02

The later mirror shape is exactly the same, the difference is in the plug. I think the later mirrors may be heated.
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 09:10 AM
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ooo ooo what about us 89-95 truck/runner guys Jason?
Clear lens w/amber LEDs? wait a min. you're talking about those arrows on the glass right? not the lenses in the housing [like Mercedes/Lexus] right?
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by DeathCougar
The interchange is actually 96-5/99, and 6/99-02

The later mirror shape is exactly the same, the difference is in the plug. I think the later mirrors may be heated.
Wait, so 96-98 4runners, had the same shaped glass as 99-02 4runners?

Yes, I'm talking about the arrows in the glass.
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathCougar
The interchange is actually 96-5/99, and 6/99-02

The later mirror shape is exactly the same, the difference is in the plug. I think the later mirrors may be heated.
They're not all heated, I wish they were on my 01 though.

Jason, how about a heated glass with signals, I'd definitely buy those.
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 07:07 PM
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Or what about just a heated glass?
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 08:48 PM
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I'd be interested in heated as well. Funny, tonight I noticed a lot of wind noise around my mirrors and was going to start experimenting with aerodynamics to reduce the noise. Anybody make anything already?
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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by eric-the-red
They're not all heated, I wish they were on my 01 though.

Jason, how about a heated glass with signals, I'd definitely buy those.
The outside mirrors are linked to the rear defrost. Thus when the rear defrost is activated, the mirrors heat simultaneously. Are you saying that when you activate your rear defrost, your mirrors do not defrost?

Per the Brochures below for '00, '01 & '02, all 4Runners came with heated mirrors:

2000

2001

2002

Could not find a brochure for '99, but here's a quote from J.A.'s website:

SR5 grade level 4Runners now feature as standard heated outside mirrors, built-in map lights in the overhead console and cruise control. In addition, the SR5 model's optional Sports Package has been upgraded to include front and rear color-keyed bumpers with projector fog lamps, fender flares, a new wheel design and a sporty hood scoop. Go here for more info: Click Me
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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Rock Slide
SR5 grade level 4Runners now feature as standard heated outside mirrors, built-in map lights in the overhead console and cruise control. In addition, the SR5 model's optional Sports Package has been upgraded to include front and rear color-keyed bumpers with projector fog lamps, fender flares, a new wheel design and a sporty hood scoop. Go here for more info: Click Me

The key there is SR5 grade level. In 2000 the base model w/ a 2.7 was still available and heated mirrors were not standard. I know this for a fact as I owned one for 5 years and would have appreciated those heated mirrors during our long New England winters. Now I have an 02 and I do like the heated mirrors, its a pain to scrape an inch of ice off your mirror without moving it out of position or breaking it.
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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 09:00 AM
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...would have appreciated those heated mirrors during our long New England winters. Now I have an 02 and I do like the heated mirrors, its a pain to scrape an inch of ice off your mirror without moving it out of position or breaking it.
Same problem here... heated mirrors would be a huge plus... I'd just have to rig a separate switch for them since most trucks don't have the rear defog.
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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by pat161
The key there is SR5 grade level. In 2000 the base model w/ a 2.7 was still available and heated mirrors were not standard. I know this for a fact as I owned one for 5 years and would have appreciated those heated mirrors during our long New England winters. Now I have an 02 and I do like the heated mirrors, its a pain to scrape an inch of ice off your mirror without moving it out of position or breaking it.
Ah I see...I didn't think about the base model.
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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Rock Slide
The outside mirrors are linked to the rear defrost. Thus when the rear defrost is activated, the mirrors heat simultaneously. Are you saying that when you activate your rear defrost, your mirrors do not defrost?

Per the Brochures below for '00, '01 & '02, all 4Runners came with heated mirrors:
Maybe the fancy US models did, but the cheap ones they pawned off on us north of the 49th (where heated everything is needed) didn't all have heated mirrors. AFAIK they were only standard on the Limited. My 01 definitely does not have them.
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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 01:09 AM
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i thought the 99-02 4Runners had a taller mirror than the 96-98 models..
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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 01:16 PM
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I have a '98 and as I was driving today I saw a '99 or '00 and the mirror glass is definitely different...
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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 05:34 PM
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I'm just going to do mine using this write-up.......

http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd...d-mirrors.html
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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 06:29 PM
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Jason,
I can't speak to all of the mirror differences, but the 99's look like this:



My 2000 and the 2001s (and I'm guessing the 2002s) look like this:



Notice how much more curved the inside is on the newer mirrors.

Ken
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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 07:58 PM
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useful link hammerhead thanks much... that one goes on my to do list... near the top...
scraping ice off this past few winters has been a major PITA... I'll post up a how to here when I get her done...
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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 09:03 PM
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useful link hammerhead thanks much... that one goes on my to do list... near the top...
scraping ice off this past few winters has been a major PITA... I'll post up a how to here when I get her done...
I was thinking the EXACT same thing. I think i'll try and get this done before next fall... since i like a good challenge when dealing with electrical stuff i think i'll try and figure out how to wire it into the existing rear defroster switch maybe....
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 02:44 PM
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Hey nuts... I was looking at how it might be done here's a link to the factory wiring diagram http://www.ncttora.com/fsm/1996/SIL/...i/053rwdmh.pdf

For 89-95 trucks and 4runners tap into the green wire running off #3 of the defog relay with a 10A fuse shown in the middle of this diagram http://www.ncttora.com/fsm/1990-1995...stemci/rwd.pdf

and everything should work... I let you know after I try it myself lol.
Hope this helps everyine
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 04:30 PM
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Just looked at the diagram and it looks promising.

Question: Is the timed feature of the rear defogger controlled through the body ecu or the actual [push button] switch?

by the looks of this diagram, the body ecu controls the timed feature. i have to wonder if they integrated this in the 1996?

as far as the sunroof relay/switch controls go between these years, they were completely different. so i wouldn't be surprised if it were different for the defogger, too.
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