Noob wheel bearing help PLEASE!!
#1
Noob wheel bearing help PLEASE!!
Hi guys,
Toyota was doing a recall job on my 1995 toyota pickup 4x4 and said I should get my wheel bearings replaced, they said like 400 dollars to do the work!!!
So now ive driven about 1500 miles scense then and I am hearing some squeeking in the front left, so I dont want to drive anymore untill I get um done.
Is this an easy job? Im not the best but am not without skill, so I feel I could do it, I think I can get help.
Does the squeeking mean its going out?
I found a website called auto parts wharehouse and am unsure what to buy.
Do I need an inner and an outer bearing to complete the job?
I was typing to a "person" on there website just now, has to be a computer??? but "she" said I need these things....please verify if this is right or a good deal or not...http://replacement.autopartswarehous...eturnurl=_BASE
I am unsure if this is what I need, do I ned to buy 2 of each?
I said I wanted oem, one says oem??
Thank you guys. I really need the gurus hear to help a newbie haha
Toyota was doing a recall job on my 1995 toyota pickup 4x4 and said I should get my wheel bearings replaced, they said like 400 dollars to do the work!!!
So now ive driven about 1500 miles scense then and I am hearing some squeeking in the front left, so I dont want to drive anymore untill I get um done.
Is this an easy job? Im not the best but am not without skill, so I feel I could do it, I think I can get help.
Does the squeeking mean its going out?
I found a website called auto parts wharehouse and am unsure what to buy.
Do I need an inner and an outer bearing to complete the job?
I was typing to a "person" on there website just now, has to be a computer??? but "she" said I need these things....please verify if this is right or a good deal or not...http://replacement.autopartswarehous...eturnurl=_BASE
I am unsure if this is what I need, do I ned to buy 2 of each?
I said I wanted oem, one says oem??
Thank you guys. I really need the gurus hear to help a newbie haha
Last edited by 95yoda; May 23, 2007 at 09:23 PM.
#3
I think it may go off when the brake is applied, but not 100% sure.
My truck has 119k, how long to bearings last?
I just started hearing the squeeking today, but it has made a kinda rattle when I go over bumps for some time, like the sound of change clanging in your pocket, just over bumps, like potholes. clangs and stops, only on bumps.
What do you think?
thanks.
#5
I think the squeaking is coming from your brake pads. The rattling is probably worn inner spindle bushings. And the dealership was trying to bend you over. Like I said earlier, your bearings probably just need to be repacked.
Repacking bearings is an easy job to do yourself. However, you will have to buy a large socket for the hub nut. 54mm and/or 2 1/8" will both work.
Repacking bearings is an easy job to do yourself. However, you will have to buy a large socket for the hub nut. 54mm and/or 2 1/8" will both work.
#6
I dont think its pads, at least not worn out as they only have about 6,000 miles on them and im easy on brakes.
I think I did hear sort of a grown on the corner, but I will listen very close tomorrow.
So what is invloved in checking the spindle?
Do I need to remove the bearings to repack or use a gun?
I think I did hear sort of a grown on the corner, but I will listen very close tomorrow.
So what is invloved in checking the spindle?
Do I need to remove the bearings to repack or use a gun?
#7
Brake pads don't have to be worn out to squeak. To check your inner spindle bushings, you can grab your cv axle (near the hub) and give it a good shake. It should have little or no play. If it is loose, the inner spindle bushing are worn, and are likely causing the rattling.
Yes, the bearings need to be removed and cleaned before you repack them.
Yes, the bearings need to be removed and cleaned before you repack them.
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#8
Brake pads don't have to be worn out to squeak. To check your inner spindle bushings, you can grab your cv axle (near the hub) and give it a good shake. It should have little or no play. If it is loose, the inner spindle bushing are worn, and are likely causing the rattling.
Yes, the bearings need to be removed and cleaned before you repack them.
Yes, the bearings need to be removed and cleaned before you repack them.
Thanks chickenlover,
I would think there would only be squeeking in the brake if the brakes were applied?
I was searching the forum and someone mentioned if it is a modulating sound, changing pitch, could be bearing...this sound is like that. goes higher to lower pitched sorta, like a old wagon wheel or something.
So how would I know if it needs repacking or just new ones?
Also, isent there a way to test, like pulling at 6 and 12 oclock on the wheel or something?
#9
How to do the front wheel bearings (and more):
- http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/maintenance/front_end/
Sqeaking brakes can be only with the brakes off, caused by pads dragging on the rotor. Apply the brakes and the pressure on the pads can stop the noise.
Only way to tell on the wheel bearings is to pull them out, clean and inspect (visually) the bearings and races. Worn bearings will have pits in the surface and the races will show discoloration or pitting as well. If everything is shiny and smooth, then regrease (i.e. repack) and put them back together.
- http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/maintenance/front_end/
Sqeaking brakes can be only with the brakes off, caused by pads dragging on the rotor. Apply the brakes and the pressure on the pads can stop the noise.
Only way to tell on the wheel bearings is to pull them out, clean and inspect (visually) the bearings and races. Worn bearings will have pits in the surface and the races will show discoloration or pitting as well. If everything is shiny and smooth, then regrease (i.e. repack) and put them back together.
#10
How to do the front wheel bearings (and more):
- http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/maintenance/front_end/
Sqeaking brakes can be only with the brakes off, caused by pads dragging on the rotor. Apply the brakes and the pressure on the pads can stop the noise.
Only way to tell on the wheel bearings is to pull them out, clean and inspect (visually) the bearings and races. Worn bearings will have pits in the surface and the races will show discoloration or pitting as well. If everything is shiny and smooth, then regrease (i.e. repack) and put them back together.
- http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/maintenance/front_end/
Sqeaking brakes can be only with the brakes off, caused by pads dragging on the rotor. Apply the brakes and the pressure on the pads can stop the noise.
Only way to tell on the wheel bearings is to pull them out, clean and inspect (visually) the bearings and races. Worn bearings will have pits in the surface and the races will show discoloration or pitting as well. If everything is shiny and smooth, then regrease (i.e. repack) and put them back together.
Ok, thank you for the info.
Today I did not hear the noise so far, but I only drove 2 miles. and it is raining out, would the rain make the noise go away?
#11
#12
So how do I figure out if its wheel bearings or brakes?
I want to be sure before buying parts, as I will need help doing this stuff anyway as ive never done it before. I want to learn though.
If anyone in the twin cities would be intrested in helping, I could pay some money or give some beer haha? figured id ask!!
I want to be sure before buying parts, as I will need help doing this stuff anyway as ive never done it before. I want to learn though.
If anyone in the twin cities would be intrested in helping, I could pay some money or give some beer haha? figured id ask!!
Last edited by 95yoda; May 24, 2007 at 07:33 AM.
#13
As noted above.
Brake noise usually goes away or changes with light or heavy brake application.
Wheel bearing noise usually changes in turns, louder when the bad bearing is on the outside wheel in a turn, less noise when it is on the inside of a turn.
Brake noise usually goes away or changes with light or heavy brake application.
Wheel bearing noise usually changes in turns, louder when the bad bearing is on the outside wheel in a turn, less noise when it is on the inside of a turn.
#14
I think it may have been louder in the turns.
I wish it was making it this morning so I could listen more.
Would I be able to tell my pulling on the wheel? how did toyota diagnose my wheel bearings needed attention?
I wish it was making it this morning so I could listen more.
Would I be able to tell my pulling on the wheel? how did toyota diagnose my wheel bearings needed attention?
#15
You could ask the shop how they made their diagnosis. But as I mentioned earlier, pulling the bearings, cleaning and inspecting them will tell you the answer. You might find there is only 1 or 2 bad bearings, so just replace the bad ones. They may also all be OK and then you are only out the time and some grease to repack them.
#17
The wheel bearings are caged roller bearings. You can replace each bearing unit (race and bearing) separately, there are two per side:
http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/mainte...t_end/bearing/
A Factory Service Manual should list minimum pad and rotor thickness specifications. Also, check the anti-rattle clips on the brakes and I like to use CRC Disc Brake Quiet on my pads:

http://www.autobarn.net/ch05016.html
http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/mainte...t_end/bearing/
A Factory Service Manual should list minimum pad and rotor thickness specifications. Also, check the anti-rattle clips on the brakes and I like to use CRC Disc Brake Quiet on my pads:
http://www.autobarn.net/ch05016.html
#18
Toyota uses a TAPERED ROLLER BEARING not a ball bearing.
If they bearing is bad - replace the bearing assembly AND the race!!!
Do NOT repack a new bearing and place it on an old race!!!
Put the truck up on stands with the wheels ON and feel for play...
For starters anyway..
If that looks good (check for ball joint play while yyer there) remove the tires and pull the brake PADS and check for wear and maybe regrease the pad BACKs... it may be that the caliper has siezed (they always sieze on the BACK side for some reason... kinda like bread falling butter side down)
Get a copy of How to Keep your Toyota Alive. Its for the older trucks but hte front end is basically the same... Read up on THAT section for repack and see if you want to attempt it.
First time I did it it took ALL DAY...
There are some odd ball tools that amek the job work better
-- fish scale (preload)
-- torque wrench (lug nuts)
-- bearing packer (makes it easier)
-- grease gun (to pack the bearings)
-- latex gloves (grease is messy)
-- Hub Nut socket (54mm?? I forget)
If you dont have these tools and cant borrow em from someone - take it to a shop...
BTW - if you convince a lister to come and give you an hand you em em at LEAST food (pizza, subs) and dring (Soda during work - beer (safely) afterwards....
If they bearing is bad - replace the bearing assembly AND the race!!!
Do NOT repack a new bearing and place it on an old race!!!
Put the truck up on stands with the wheels ON and feel for play...
For starters anyway..
If that looks good (check for ball joint play while yyer there) remove the tires and pull the brake PADS and check for wear and maybe regrease the pad BACKs... it may be that the caliper has siezed (they always sieze on the BACK side for some reason... kinda like bread falling butter side down)
Get a copy of How to Keep your Toyota Alive. Its for the older trucks but hte front end is basically the same... Read up on THAT section for repack and see if you want to attempt it.
First time I did it it took ALL DAY...
There are some odd ball tools that amek the job work better
-- fish scale (preload)
-- torque wrench (lug nuts)
-- bearing packer (makes it easier)
-- grease gun (to pack the bearings)
-- latex gloves (grease is messy)
-- Hub Nut socket (54mm?? I forget)
If you dont have these tools and cant borrow em from someone - take it to a shop...
BTW - if you convince a lister to come and give you an hand you em em at LEAST food (pizza, subs) and dring (Soda during work - beer (safely) afterwards....
#19
Toyota uses a TAPERED ROLLER BEARING not a ball bearing.
If they bearing is bad - replace the bearing assembly AND the race!!!
Do NOT repack a new bearing and place it on an old race!!!
Put the truck up on stands with the wheels ON and feel for play...
For starters anyway..
If that looks good (check for ball joint play while yyer there) remove the tires and pull the brake PADS and check for wear and maybe regrease the pad BACKs... it may be that the caliper has siezed (they always sieze on the BACK side for some reason... kinda like bread falling butter side down)
Get a copy of How to Keep your Toyota Alive. Its for the older trucks but hte front end is basically the same... Read up on THAT section for repack and see if you want to attempt it.
First time I did it it took ALL DAY...
There are some odd ball tools that amek the job work better
-- fish scale (preload)
-- torque wrench (lug nuts)
-- bearing packer (makes it easier)
-- grease gun (to pack the bearings)
-- latex gloves (grease is messy)
-- Hub Nut socket (54mm?? I forget)
If you dont have these tools and cant borrow em from someone - take it to a shop...
BTW - if you convince a lister to come and give you an hand you em em at LEAST food (pizza, subs) and dring (Soda during work - beer (safely) afterwards....
If they bearing is bad - replace the bearing assembly AND the race!!!
Do NOT repack a new bearing and place it on an old race!!!
Put the truck up on stands with the wheels ON and feel for play...
For starters anyway..
If that looks good (check for ball joint play while yyer there) remove the tires and pull the brake PADS and check for wear and maybe regrease the pad BACKs... it may be that the caliper has siezed (they always sieze on the BACK side for some reason... kinda like bread falling butter side down)
Get a copy of How to Keep your Toyota Alive. Its for the older trucks but hte front end is basically the same... Read up on THAT section for repack and see if you want to attempt it.
First time I did it it took ALL DAY...
There are some odd ball tools that amek the job work better
-- fish scale (preload)
-- torque wrench (lug nuts)
-- bearing packer (makes it easier)
-- grease gun (to pack the bearings)
-- latex gloves (grease is messy)
-- Hub Nut socket (54mm?? I forget)
If you dont have these tools and cant borrow em from someone - take it to a shop...
BTW - if you convince a lister to come and give you an hand you em em at LEAST food (pizza, subs) and dring (Soda during work - beer (safely) afterwards....



