What is it doing in my oil pan?
Mar 29, 2009 | 09:38 PM
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As for those pieces damaging the motor, when the guides broke in my Celica, it ran for a week with little to no oil pressure. Then my brother replaced them. The timing cover was already leaking. All of the coolant ended in the oil. He drove it like this for a few days, with no coolant in the cooling system, and coolant in the oil. He brought it home, I pulled the head off, replaced the head gasket and head bolts (the head gasket was starting to leak too. Fun motor), replaced the timing cover, flushed the oil, and it ran as good as ever. That was probably 8 months ago, and he still drives it daily, and it's still running like a champ.
Edit: spelling.
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Mar 29, 2009 | 09:58 PM
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I got rid of that dumb piece of rubber or plastic, or watever it was a while ago, and slid a piece of silicone tubing over the end of the PCV. Creates a perfect seal. Hard to see in this picture, but the larger diameter silicone hose I had (seen attached to the lower breather on the valve cover) was a perfect diameter and thickness to wedge between the PCV valve, and the hole in the valve cover.
As for those pieces damaging the motor, when the guides broke in my Celica, it ran for a week with little to no oil pressure. Then my brother replaced them. The timing cover was already leaking. All of the coolant ended in the oil. He drove it like this for a few days, with no coolant in the cooling system, and coolant in the oil. He brought it home, I pulled the head off, replaced the head gasket and head bolts (the head gasket was starting to leak too. Fun motor), replaced the timing cover, flushed the oil, and it ran as good as ever. That was probably 8 months ago, and he still drives it daily, and it's still running like a champ.
Edit: spelling.
As for those pieces damaging the motor, when the guides broke in my Celica, it ran for a week with little to no oil pressure. Then my brother replaced them. The timing cover was already leaking. All of the coolant ended in the oil. He drove it like this for a few days, with no coolant in the cooling system, and coolant in the oil. He brought it home, I pulled the head off, replaced the head gasket and head bolts (the head gasket was starting to leak too. Fun motor), replaced the timing cover, flushed the oil, and it ran as good as ever. That was probably 8 months ago, and he still drives it daily, and it's still running like a champ.
Edit: spelling.
clean looking engine though
Mar 29, 2009 | 10:08 PM
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Yeah, I had noticed some screetching and or clicking while under load but i had accounted that to the transmission giving out. I also took it to a local 22r guy with GREAT references to peek at it before i started everything, he said everything was perfect other than the exhaust leak and oil pan gasket. When I did the valve adjustment and new VC gaskets I peeked down the timing cover to check the conditions of everything but, couldnt see down far enough to get a good looksee. The previous owner said the timing chain was replaced with one that had metal guides I guess I will find out tomarrow. If it was or wasnt replaced with metal idk but the mechanic who did the jub rplaced the pan gasket with RTV...that leaked......alot...for a looong time.
Mar 29, 2009 | 10:41 PM
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It is likely the PO did have the chain and guides replaced but whoever did the job didn't bother to drop the pan to check for pieces of the old guides. That would also account for the leaky oil pan since it's harder (but not impossible) to get a good seal if you replace the timing cover without dropping the pan.
Mar 30, 2009 | 01:55 PM
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Mar 30, 2009 | 03:35 PM
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As it turns out, the PO lied yet again (no suprise) and while the timing chain had been replaced it was plastic (not broken, but this don't mean the plastic wasn't from before it was changed buy the PO). Didn't plan for this to turn into a timing job. Gotta give a shout out to Nor-Crawl though. They had a new metal timing set and gave it to me for next to nothing....and it all started with a rattle.
Mar 30, 2009 | 05:15 PM
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Mar 31, 2009 | 06:31 AM
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That's because it is . I had the valve cover off for a valve lash adjustment, and decided to paint it.
As for the oil pan, my 83 22R-E (early efi!) Had a gasket on it. Most of my other toyota motors.have been rtv. The only other pan gasket I've seen was on a 5M-E.
. I had the valve cover off for a valve lash adjustment, and decided to paint it. As for the oil pan, my 83 22R-E (early efi!) Had a gasket on it. Most of my other toyota motors.have been rtv. The only other pan gasket I've seen was on a 5M-E.
Mar 31, 2009 | 08:21 AM
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Why RTV? I can't say I have ever seen an RTV'd gasket that held up as well as a cork or silicone gasket. Plus, after time doesn't RTV dissolve then re-solidify in the most innoportune place?
