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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 07:12 AM
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Official PC benchmarking thread

In the past we have had a few threads on benchmarking one's PC whether it's the CPU test, or the graphics test.
I thought I'd start a new thread here and with links to download the software.

A newer one just came out for the CPU test.
Be aware the 3D vid card one is a huge download at around 178 mb.
You will also need to download a file from Microsoft called the Media Encoder 9 in order for the CPU test to run right on the 2nd benchmark.

Once again I am running two of the newer benchmark tests on my system.
It will be fun to compare the results to what others have on similar PCs.
Make sure you get the correct versions of each that are listed below.
Just a week back I ran PC Mark 02, and now the newer 04 one is available free to the public.

3D Mark 03 that is patched to 340 build @ 178 mb

PC Mark 04 replaced the older 02 one @ 36 mb

Microsoft Media Encoder 9 @ 9.5 mb needed to run PC Mark 04 correctly.

Please state:
What CPU you are running, and if it's overclocked.
How much system RAM, and what type
Mother board brand and model
Video card and version of drivers

Here are my results:
CPU is a P4 2.4 C at 800 FSB, and it's over clocked to 3.12 GHz (30% over stock)
I normally run it at 2.88 GHz (20% over stock) but I cranked it for this test.
I'll retest at a later date at 2.88 GHz again to compare.
512 RAM, PC 3200 style
Asus P4P800 mobo
ATI Radeon 9600 Pro using the latest Catalyst drivers 4.4 from ATI

3D Mark 03 test score:
3403

PC Mark 04 test score:
4670

My 3D Mark 03 test has gone up significantly due to the fact I have a much better video card now over the Nvidia based FX5200 I was running prior to last weekend.
The tests with the other video card netted me a score of less than half of this one.

The results are different now for the PC Mark 04 compared to the older PC Mark 02 we used in this thread.
Where as before you had 3 numbers to look at, you get one now much like the 3D test.
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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The best 3DMark03 score I have gotten is 3389.

I think it's funny that you have over a 1GHz clock speed advantage with your P4 running at 3.12 GHz against my Athlon XP 2400+ running at 2.1GHz (15x140) and yet you only beat my 3DMark score by 14 points.
Also, I am only running PC133 SDRAM, not DDR, and a 280MHz FSB to the processor.

Here's my system specs:

Main Box - EPoX 8KTA3+Pro - 1024MB RAM - AthlonXP 2400+ @2.1GHz - AIW 9600 Pro @515/375 - Enermax 431W PSU - CoolerMaster ATC 201 Case - TB Santa Cruz - Macronix 10/100 NIC - PC Geiger RD2 Pro - Phoebe Micro 33.6 Data/Fax ISA Modem - (2) Maxtor D740X 80GB RAID 0 - Pioneer 120s 16x DVD - (2) TDK 16x10x40x CDRW - Mitsumi 1.44MB 3.5" Floppy - WinXP Pro SP1


Athlon's own the P4, Corey. You should know better.


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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 10:12 PM
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I have no idea what either of you are talking about. :pat:
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Zhivago
Athlon's own the P4, Corey. You should know better.


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He he, I think the 3D Mark test though Galen is not so much CPU related, but video card related.
I ran this same test when I had my FX5200 card in there, and it was only around 1420 or so.

I have more than doubled my test score just by switching video cards for the better and faster ATI 9600 Pro.

I will run both of these tests again at 2.88 and then at stock at 2.4 GHz for my CPU later this week.

I see you have the same vid card as me.
I did not OC my vid card for the test.
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 07:21 AM
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It is Corey, but it's still fun to give you a bad time. It's also nice to see that I have plenty of CPU power for my card and that any more is probably a waste.

I have the All-In-Wonder 9600 Pro. It's even faster in stock form than the regular 9600 Pro. This is my 2nd All-In-Wonder card. TV on my puter is a nice thing.

Peace!
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 07:37 AM
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I'll run those tests as soon as I get home, as I've made quite a few upgrades to my "old" Inspiron 8200.

One thing though... I think we should also post our hard drive speeds and interface... as that can greatly improve performance numbers.

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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 09:00 AM
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Don't know what your talking about but i'm interested in it. Here's my specs and scores.

AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2600+ 1.9 GHz
ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe ACPI BIOS Rev 1006
768 DDR RAM
Radeon 9500 pro/ 9700 w/ 128DDR RAM
MAXTOR 4K080H4 80gb
Windows XP Pro

PCMark 3289
3dmark 2930

Looks like you guys got me beat.
Is over clocking good and easy or is that a whole different topic?
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 02:38 PM
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Sounds good Chris, looking forward to your results of your updates to your 'puter.

And...if anyone doesn't think overclocking helps your PC, I have the results right here.
Notice how each time I crank up the CPUs GHz via my Asus mobo's BIOS section, both the 3D and the CPU tests go up some.
But the CPU tests go up more, as the 3D tests are more dependent on the video card than the CPU.

Stock 2.4 GHz, no overclocking
3D Mark 03 test:
3281
PC Mark 04 test:
3809

Overclocked 20% to 2.88 GHz
3D Mark 03 test:
3377
PC Mark 04 test:
4344

Overclocked 30% to 3.12 GHz
3D Mark 03 test:
3403
PC Mark 04 test:
4670

Quite a bit of difference 'eh?
I run mine at 2.88 GHz for the most part, only changed it for these tests.
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 10:57 AM
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3DMark03 Score:4952

PCMark04 Score:3509

System Specs:
Athlon 2500+XP accidentally overclocked to 2700+ (2.00 Ghz)
Asus A7N8X Deluxe Motherboard
512 MB PC3200 DDR Ram (single channel)
ATI Radeon 9500 non-pro(128MB version)

I could almost certainly overclock to higher levels, but I haven't really done any hardcore overclocking since my second water cooling disaster.

Not that the disaster has dissuaded me; we moved shortly after the second accident and now there is no room for an external evaporative water cooling system. I have something on the drawing board, but it is awaiting funding and approval from the Treasury Dept (wife).

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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 11:53 AM
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Dang, how is your 3D Mark #s so much higher than mine?
I am running a slightly faster video card than you too.
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 04:16 PM
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Sorry, it's the non-pro version, my mistake. I edited the description above to make that change.

As for your question Corey, just like horsepower isn't everything, neither are Mhz. The 9500 Pro is actually a faster card than the 9600 Pro. The 9500 Pro has 8 rendering pipelines whereas the 9600 Pro has only 4. However, the 9500 Pro was built with a .15 micron process, while the 9600 Pro was built with a .13 micron process. That allowed ATI to ramp up the speeds for the 9600 Pro, however, due to the fewer pipelines (and a couple other things), performance was not as good as the 9500 Pro.

My 9500 non-pro came with a 128 bit memory interface and only 4 pipelines, however, the circuitry was in place for a 256 bit memory interface and 8 pipelines, it just needed a simple software hack to enable all 8 pipelines and the 256 bit memory interface. This greatly increased the fill rate so that it performs similar to a 9700 Pro.

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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 04:25 PM
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Bill, still getting use to ATI cards, as I came over from Nvidia.

Nvidia's cards get faster as the # of the model increases, and I see in some case with ATI this is not true, with the exception of course for the 9800 XT

Got any hacks for my 9600 Pro?
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 04:57 PM
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Actually, Nvidia does the same thing. Their GeForce4 MX series incorporated the technology of the GeForce2, while the GeForce4 4200, 4400, and 4600 used the technology of the GeForce3. GeForce3 cards repeatedly out-benched every GeForce4 MX.

Unfortunately, because of the construction of the 9600 Pro, there aren't any things you can do equivalent to what I was able to with my 9500. You can overclock, and in fact, the 9600 Pro tends to overclock nicely due to the process shrink. There's also a guy who produces tweaked drivers, I run those and they are very good (you should see some improvement just from the drivers). His drivers will also enable overclocking of the video card GPU and memory, if you're not using Powerstrip or something else.

Find them at www.omegacorner.com

There are other tweaked stuff out there too, try www.rage3d.com and look for the Rage3dtweai. Or you can try RivaTuner over at guru3d. I prefer omega's drivers, personally, but you have a different card than I do so you may have better luck with that.

If you're feeling adventurous, you can overvolt the card to help it overclock better. If you'd like, let me know and I'll post some links to show how to volt-mod the card. If you do that, better cooling is definitely recommended! You'll need to know how to solder, and have a voltmeter or dmm, but it's nothing that is too terribly difficult.

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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 05:36 PM
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I have the Rage software (Rage3dtweai) on my PC for about two weeks now, and I have OC'd the card a few times in games.

I'm not really needing more power, as the FX5200 card I got rid of ran every game I have including Halo at 1024x768 and looked very good.

However with the 9600 Pro, Halo looks even better now.
I don't play it much though, as I mainly play UT 2004, UT, BF 1942, Quake III, and the last two Jedi Knights that came out.

The 9600 Pro is more than enough to run them.

Last months CPU magazine showed how to mod stuff by soldering and voltage changes.
I'm not into that, I am happy enough just by OC'ing my P4P800 motherboard.

If I need any more power, my mobo supports the 3.2 Prescott and EX chips at 3.2 and above MHz.
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Old Jun 9, 2004 | 07:40 AM
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AMD XP 2500+ 333FSB OC'ed @ 2.4Ghz Tt cooler.
1024MB Dual Chan DDR 333Mhz Ram
XFX Motherboard Model: NF2SALH
MSI GeForceFX5850 Ultra OC'ed @ Core:510Mhz Ram: DDR-II @ 900Mhz
ATA-133 160gig Hard Disk
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3dMark 03 Score : 3411

I havent gotten around to PC mark yet. :pat:


Going for water cooling soon, and within the next 6 months I'll have an AMD 64.

As you can tell I'm a Die Hard AMD fan


Tip: Get higher scores by removing all the hardware you dont need(I.e. sound card, sometimes it gives you higher scores, but I didnt remove mine this time around). If you run XP defrag and make a seperate account to do benchmarking on. So that way you dont have any programs running in the background. I always use MSCONFIG to disable useless Services, and programs that I don't want starting up with my PC. I also run Adaware & Spysweeper from webroot.com. Spysweeper is like a spyware Firewall.

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Old Jun 9, 2004 | 07:46 AM
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I would have scored higher, but I just wanted to run to see how my computer performs with a normal load.
AIM, virus scanner, some spyware sneaking around... A few extra services running in the back ground. You can see it didnt do to bad.
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Old Jun 9, 2004 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Corey
Dang, how is your 3D Mark #s so much higher than mine?
I am running a slightly faster video card than you too.
AMDXP rapes your P4

lol just playing, please take no offence.
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 05:18 PM
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Well here's mine.

MSI 800FSB
P4 2.4 400 ( yeah I need an 800FSB processor but this works for now )
1GB 3200 RAM (borrowed from friend to see if there's a difference from my 512 3200), can't really see a diff. Benchmarks are really close as well.
Western 120GB SATA
ATI Radeon 9800XT

This will piss you guys off. My friend has to have the best. Six months ago he bought the 9800XT for $449.00. He just bought the X800 PRO so I scored his 9800XT with 2.5 years left on the warranty for $200.00.
There is no better looking game then FARCRY .


3D 03 Results 6121

Oh yeah, my friends X800 PRO broke 9,000 in 03, close to 9,500 if I remember .

Here's some pics, built her myself.




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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 01:45 AM
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I have p4 3.0 with 9800 XT card. My 3Dmark03 score 6500 at 1024x768 running stock.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Drew
I have p4 3.0 with 9800 XT card. My 3Dmark03 score 6500 at 1024x768 running stock.

I knew my 2.4/400 processor was hurtin' me. Thanks for the proof.
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