Well this has probably been discussed, I can't find it at the moment.

How about a 1st/2nd/3rd/4th gen seperate forums as well as "general" 4Runner

It would be nice to focus in on for those interested in the specific gen. 4R

I also think it would attract more people and keep popular or active gen. specific threads "at the top" and keep the interest of those not wanting to rifle through 10 pages of "general 4R & truck" to find 3 threads on 4th gen or whatever.

And yes, since I have a 4th gen, it is in my own interest to propose this

But I think it would be good for everyone too- while still having the general forum for everyone to share.

It could be "4th gen tech", "3rd gen Tech", "2nd gen tech" and "1st gen tech forum"

Also, as much as I like the current header, I think we need new pics up there- even if it's updates of the same trucks.

 

that's a cool idea, FT.

 

thats a great idea!

 

you could always jsut use the search button

 

It's been hashed to death...

If you have a 4th gen question...try that t4r.org...

Just do what I do, start all your posts "4th gen: "

 

I think it is a great idea to do it. IH8MUD, mustang, lexus, etc forums are split like that and seems to really work well. The issue is that not all post are titled by type of vehicle. So anytime somebody posts, it is not clear if it is for a Taco, PU, 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th gen. Searching is like looking for a needle in a hay stack.

I think the board have sufficient members to feed each section. The idea might not have worked earlier, but at the moment it feels like an overload of posts in the tech section, with little relevance to each group. This is diluting the usefullness of the tech section IMHO.

While we are at it can we triom down on the off topic section. Every time I hit new posts off topic is like 50% or moe. And most of these posts seems to be going south quickly. Can we take off topic posts out of post count as well please.

 

I was actually just thinking about this the other day. It would be a great idea to have seperate sections for the 4 gens of 4Runners. Although, I do see good ideas from other gens that I can use. I can see the benefit of both...a lot of help I am

 

i'd like to propose a button one can click to code the generation and type (don't forget about non-runners, please) so that the current forum structure doesn't have to be reworked, but the advanced search perhaps could let you key off those checkmarks that people put in their post.

 

Just cheerleading the idea a bit but... I think Gen1,2,3,4 tech forums would also give a stronger sense of community amongst their respective owners (and self-moderating the trolls, OT stuff, etc).
It would pull alot of stuff out of the "general" forum so moderating that would be alot easier too.

Maybe under "4Runners, Trucks & SUV's" there is a list of Gen1,2,3,4 forums-- just like the "check out my truck" section with all the sub-catagories per generation.

Just brainstorming, but what about condesing the two so at the top of each tech forum you have "check out my truck".

So If you were to go to "3rd Gen Tech", at the top would be a sticky of "3rd Gen Check out my Truck".

 

I suggest grouping the technologies together that makes sense.

Like 3rd gens and Tacos (96-04)
4th gens and new tacos (05+)
1st gen and pickups
2nd gen and corresponding pickups

If you want to pick up ideas from other technologies go for it. But try and get lift info for a 2nd gen vs a 3rd gen or 4th gen as an example. You have to filter through a lot of posts as people dont always put their info in their post, but rather rely on their sig. Posting and searching will be a lot easier in the future.

 

I think that 2nd and 1st gen 4runners (and their analogous trucks) can be mixed together since their only difference is rear coils vs. leafs (I know this is big, but it's tiny compared to the other generations). This isn't a big deal though.

Also, I don't know if the new Tacos and 4th Gens are similar, but they both have much less information than the others, so therefore I agree with pooling them together.

 

the 4th gen. and new Tacos have a lot in common - especially in the front suspension.

 

Thanks, r0cky. Even more reason to put them together.

 

SO a suggestion would be to split the 4Runner, pickup section in three then??

1st and 2nd gen and corrsponding pickups
3rd gen and taco (96-04)
4th Gen and taco (05+)

 

Yup, that's my vote. Also, we may want to do one of two things:

Add another section for all trucks before '84...or include them in the first forum (1st/2nd gen)

 

Well, I brought it up with the rest of the staff and it looks like it's not going to happen any time soon. We've discussed it and it would be a heck of a lot of work to implement. Pretty much the whole site would have to be reorganized and then moderated. Corey and Chris just don't have the time right now.

In the past I and most of the staff have been dead against generation splits. My reason has been that it lessens the sense of community...people only look in their own generation and never the others. For example on the miata forums I never look at the 2nd generation forum and never know what's going on there. Also, look at the FJ cruiser forum on ih8mud, it looks like it's the FJC guys against the rest of the forum. It seems to me that dividing the forum will also divide the community.

 

I understand Steve, good points. But it works well over at mud; they have seperate tech forums for the different Cruisers as well. I believe it does the opposite and strengthens the community, imho.

the FJ Cruiser forum is not representative because it's all just speculation since no one owns a FJ yet.
The same thing happened with the 4th gen here. It seemed 80% of YT hated the 4th gen and went out of their way to say so.
Same thing happened in mud when the 100 came out.

Anyway, it was worth a shot to ask
The implementation sounds like a real bear. I'm not advocating a grip of work for the mods. Thanks for the update!

 

Thx for the update Steve. We can at least always hope.

I think at least we need to promote people then to be specifc in their technical posts about year and model the question or statement relates to in the Title of the post. This will make it easier to respond and also a lot easier to search IMHO.

 

That's what I used to think too but it seems like we have so many people using the "New Posts" button that it wouldn't really matter all that much.

Though I can appreciate the sheer amount of work it would be for you mods to implement the divisions.


I could see this happening.

 

I have a suggestion to add. I know it won't be done but I will throw it out there. What would be nice is a break down by engine type. When you brake down by generations there are still alot of commonality and difference between the individual generations. That can be touched on in one section and not in the other
I.E.
1st and 2nd gen and corrsponding pickups ? 20R, 22R, 22RC, 22RE, 3VZ-E ?
3rd gen and taco (96-04) ?(I'm not sure of the motor designations except the 3slow 3VZ-E)? 2.7L, 3.0L, 3.4L?
4th Gen and taco (05+) ? 2.7L, 3.4L, V8 (how ever many liters that is)

Do you see what I am getting at? The engines are shared across generations so the tech needs to be shared. Right now you can get a post that says "Need info on what is wrong with my Flux Capacitor". You click on it and see that it is one for a 6cyl but which one? And I'm a 4 cyl. So I have no idea. Or I see a post for "Help with my 22R" but the person left off the fact they are carbed and I am fuel injected.
Does this make sense to anyone. What I am getting at is there are alot more differences than just Year's or Generations, within the years or generations. Heck do us trucks even go by generations or are we just "Pickup" and "Taco"? Oh don't forget the T-100 and Tundra don't they share motors with the rest of us and such.