is the site being slow or is it just me
Nov 19, 2009 | 12:17 PM
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The reason this happened is because immediately after 9/11 attacks terrorists started DDoS'ing multiple internet infrastructure servers.
This could have the possability of a terrorist group 'practicing' and they will treat it as such.
All I'm sayin. Or it could be some idiot who wants to mess with us, or a ring of identity thieves. Who knows.
This could have the possability of a terrorist group 'practicing' and they will treat it as such.
All I'm sayin. Or it could be some idiot who wants to mess with us, or a ring of identity thieves. Who knows.
Nov 19, 2009 | 12:28 PM
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denial of service attack on a server .....
imagine a server can handle 1000 people scanning it and asking for information (pages) to view and threads.....
what someone does is multiplies those requests by 10,000 and it basically maxes out the hardware specs on the server and it completely shuts down.
Imagine it as opening up a website and you kept getting a pop up ad, and they never stop and your computer gets slower as they open up until you have no choice but to unplug the computer or it crashes by itself.
imagine a server can handle 1000 people scanning it and asking for information (pages) to view and threads.....
what someone does is multiplies those requests by 10,000 and it basically maxes out the hardware specs on the server and it completely shuts down.
Imagine it as opening up a website and you kept getting a pop up ad, and they never stop and your computer gets slower as they open up until you have no choice but to unplug the computer or it crashes by itself.
hey ,i clicked on AMAZON the other day and it kept opening new windows....i finally shut the computer down when it opened it's 19th.
Nov 19, 2009 | 12:31 PM
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I do believe I read before on the cybercrime page of the FBI that they do consider a hack on a server an act of terrorism, and they will treat that person who gets caught as a terrorist.
It costs extra money, man/woman power to fix attacks, and the downtime from lost revenue.
It is like robbing a store or stealing something.
When a server goes down, it is not making money.
http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx
http://www.ic3.gov/about/default.aspx
It costs extra money, man/woman power to fix attacks, and the downtime from lost revenue.
It is like robbing a store or stealing something.
When a server goes down, it is not making money.
http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx
http://www.ic3.gov/about/default.aspx
Computer Intrusions (hacking),
Nov 19, 2009 | 12:33 PM
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Nov 19, 2009 | 12:37 PM
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Nov 19, 2009 | 12:38 PM
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there definitions are precise, and the english language im ok with
imo its the law that has it messed up.
websters
Main Entry: ter·ror·ism
Pronunciation: \ˈter-ər-ˌi-zəm\
Function: noun
Date: 1795
: the systematic use of "terror" especially as a means of coercion.
websters
Main Entry: ter·ror
Pronunciation: \ˈter-ər, ˈte-rər\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French terrour, from Latin terror, from terrēre to frighten; akin to Greek trein to be afraid, flee, tremein to tremble — more at tremble
Date: 14th century
1 : a state of intense fear
2 a : one that inspires fear : scourge b : a frightening aspect <the terrors of invasion> c : a cause of anxiety : worry d : an appalling person or thing; especially : brat
3 : reign of terror
4 : violent or destructive acts (as bombing) committed by groups in order to intimidate a population or government into granting their demands <insurrection and revolutionary terror>
terrorist act - the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear
did the dos attack on yt cause any real terror?
i dont think so but as i said, its just my opinion.
imo its the law that has it messed up.
websters
Main Entry: ter·ror·ism
Pronunciation: \ˈter-ər-ˌi-zəm\
Function: noun
Date: 1795
: the systematic use of "terror" especially as a means of coercion.
websters
Main Entry: ter·ror
Pronunciation: \ˈter-ər, ˈte-rər\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French terrour, from Latin terror, from terrēre to frighten; akin to Greek trein to be afraid, flee, tremein to tremble — more at tremble
Date: 14th century
1 : a state of intense fear
2 a : one that inspires fear : scourge b : a frightening aspect <the terrors of invasion> c : a cause of anxiety : worry d : an appalling person or thing; especially : brat
3 : reign of terror
4 : violent or destructive acts (as bombing) committed by groups in order to intimidate a population or government into granting their demands <insurrection and revolutionary terror>
terrorist act - the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear
did the dos attack on yt cause any real terror?
i dont think so but as i said, its just my opinion.
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Nov 19, 2009 | 12:44 PM
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"terrorism itself isn't a good word to put it, but it is the definition of the word"
?????
there definitions are precise, and the english language im ok with
imo its the law that has it messed up.
websters
: the systematic use of "terror" especially as a means of coercion.
1 : a state of intense fear
2 a : one that inspires fear : scourge b : a frightening aspect <the terrors of invasion> c : a cause of anxiety : worry d : an appalling person or thing; especially : brat
3 : reign of terror
4 : violent or destructive acts (as bombing) committed by groups in order to intimidate a population or government into granting their demands <insurrection and revolutionary terror>
terrorist act - the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear
did the dos attack on yt cause any real terror?
i dont think so but as i said, its just my opinion.
?????
there definitions are precise, and the english language im ok with
imo its the law that has it messed up.
websters
: the systematic use of "terror" especially as a means of coercion.
1 : a state of intense fear
2 a : one that inspires fear : scourge b : a frightening aspect <the terrors of invasion> c : a cause of anxiety : worry d : an appalling person or thing; especially : brat
3 : reign of terror
4 : violent or destructive acts (as bombing) committed by groups in order to intimidate a population or government into granting their demands <insurrection and revolutionary terror>
terrorist act - the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear
did the dos attack on yt cause any real terror?
i dont think so but as i said, its just my opinion.
I do believe I read before on the cybercrime page of the FBI that they do consider a hack on a server an act of terrorism, and they will treat that person who gets caught as a terrorist.
It costs extra money, man/woman power to fix attacks, and the downtime from lost revenue.
It is like robbing a store or stealing something.
When a server goes down, it is not making money.
http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx
http://www.ic3.gov/about/default.aspx
It costs extra money, man/woman power to fix attacks, and the downtime from lost revenue.
It is like robbing a store or stealing something.
When a server goes down, it is not making money.
http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx
http://www.ic3.gov/about/default.aspx
To you it is not terrorism. You have nothing to do with YT at all toyota 1, except someone who is 'allowed' to view it's pages.
To the 'owners' it is a loss of finances (which could disrupt their business irreverseably).
To 'Corey and Fink' who have virtually sweat blood to get this site to where it is now, have hopes and dreams..... that turn to fear when someone attacks it with the sole purpose of killing the site.
You are entitled to your opinion, but you are also incorrect.
Nov 19, 2009 | 01:02 PM
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To you it is not terrorism. You have nothing to do with YT at all toyota 1, except someone who is 'allowed' to view it's pages.
To the 'owners' it is a loss of finances (which could disrupt their business irreverseably).
To 'Corey and Fink' who have virtually sweat blood to get this site to where it is now, have hopes and dreams..... that turn to fear when someone attacks it with the sole purpose of killing the site.
You are entitled to your opinion, but you are also incorrect.
To the 'owners' it is a loss of finances (which could disrupt their business irreverseably).
To 'Corey and Fink' who have virtually sweat blood to get this site to where it is now, have hopes and dreams..... that turn to fear when someone attacks it with the sole purpose of killing the site.
You are entitled to your opinion, but you are also incorrect.
im not on there side or anything lol. i hate me some hackers!
loosing some money is not terrorism, if there is no violence involved. i didnt make up the word and meaning.
like i said people do worse things then hack a server and there not terrorists.
what about bernie madoff? he stole like 1billion dollars from hundreds of people and it wasnt considered terrorism?
Nov 19, 2009 | 01:53 PM
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I am sure they had plans for the weekend, but they were shot since they had to work on it.
I imagine there were many involved in getting the server back up and running, and not to mention lost sleep.
That is terror right there
Nov 19, 2009 | 04:10 PM
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No matter what it's called, I assume it's illegal and that you guys have some way of getting them.
To me, it's a minor inconvenience. To you Corey and the rest of the crew, it's a nightmare to have something like this happening.
Good luck and let the IT team know things are working very well (as far as posting and navigating).
To me, it's a minor inconvenience. To you Corey and the rest of the crew, it's a nightmare to have something like this happening.
Good luck and let the IT team know things are working very well (as far as posting and navigating).
Nov 19, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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You would have to ask the IT department that who all gave up their Friday nights with their families or friends to work on the server here, and well into Saturday morning before it came back up.
I am sure they had plans for the weekend, but they were shot since they had to work on it.
I imagine there were many involved in getting the server back up and running, and not to mention lost sleep.
That is terror right there
I am sure they had plans for the weekend, but they were shot since they had to work on it.
I imagine there were many involved in getting the server back up and running, and not to mention lost sleep.
That is terror right there
i would ask IT but those acts are so violent and scary
i wouldnt want them to have any flash backs.haha, im just messin i get your point.
i sure hope they catch those guys!
do you have any idea why someone would dos attack yt?
