View Poll Results: Is it okay to tell someone to "SEARCH!"

Yeup... But be nice about it

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Feb 27, 2007 | 10:28 AM

#21

Stevo3

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Quote:

Originally Posted by waskillywabbit

So post the link cause I am not going to search for it.

Brian

Hey Wabbit search for it

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/kill-switch-108340/

Feb 27, 2007 | 10:33 AM

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midiwall

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past that... fwiw, I KNOW that searching sucks - on ANY forum. Looking for pluses and minuses about 4-links is a nightmare, or "how much tire can I run in my 3rd gen".

My personal beef is basically with the stuff that's in the tech writeups.

Feb 27, 2007 | 10:41 AM

#23

Stevo3

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One person dissagrees with the search function

thats odd.

Feb 27, 2007 | 10:51 AM

#24

gpcollen1

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Part of the search function issue is the Title that people give to the thread! The KEY words should be in the title and many times it is not. Searching titles only is great to start, but when no mre info is available, on to searching the text....

Feb 27, 2007 | 11:57 AM

#25

wjwerdna

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put this into

>>> what you are searching for site:www.yotatech.com

best part is you can use all the standard search operators like "" for specific phrases or numerous other (find google search help for details) I have been starting to do it more often, and am looking into making a google powered YotaTech custom search engine as an add-in for members to firefox's list of searches

Feb 27, 2007 | 12:00 PM

#26

wjwerdna

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oh, and yeah, def tell them to search for stuff you know is in a write-up, that really pisses me off... when all you have to do is spend an hour or two to familiarize yourself with what is allready available there. Be sure to provide a link the the forum main start area, and to tech area though, with an explanantion of how to use it, which is really just click, click, read, click, read, click, read

Feb 27, 2007 | 12:01 PM

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Corey

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Originally Posted by wjwerdna

I have been starting to do it more often, and am looking into making a google powered YotaTech custom search engine as an add-in for members to firefox's list of searches

Say what?
Is this a link I can put up here so members will be taken to a custom Google page that only searches this forum?

I know many search pirates forum that way, because the search is turned off for non paying members.

Feb 27, 2007 | 12:04 PM

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wjwerdna

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well, that is possible too corey, but in the upper right hand corner of firefox there is the drop-down list of standard options, ebay, google, wikipedia, and w/e else is there, etc, you can put together something to add custom ones to this, once I figure out how this is done, I will make a thread about it, anyone on site with firefox should be able to add it to there browser. I'll look into how to integrate google with the site itself also, can't be too hard? (I know nothing about web design or forums though

)

Feb 27, 2007 | 12:19 PM

#29

wjwerdna

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Originally Posted by Corey

also, to answer question, no its not a link, i just always just type into google toolbar "site:www.yotatech.com" after what I'm looking for...

but..... http://www.google.com/searchcode.html may lead to what we could do here?

Feb 27, 2007 | 12:22 PM

#30

HaveBlue

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From: Colorado

What is Sea Foam?

Feb 27, 2007 | 12:40 PM

#31

midiwall

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Corey... yes, you can create a link to Google and let the Google engine do the search.

You need to put a text box on the page in a form, set it up for GET, use one hidden field and the right name for the text input field.

For example:

Code:

<html>
<body>

<form action="http://www.google.com/search" method="get">
  <input type="hidden" name="as_sitesearch" value="www.yotatech.com">
  <input type="text" name="as_q">
</form>

</body>
</html>

Here it is in action:
http://www.midiwall.com/4Runner/searchYT.html

Feb 27, 2007 | 12:47 PM

#32

midiwall

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Before everyone gets excited... The real issue with searching a vBulletin forum isn't that the engine isn't powerful (head to the bottom of the 2nd page at the link I posted above) it's that the engine is TOO powerful. It's doing literal searches on words within a post. You need to learn how to combine the words in order to get "natural language" type results.

If you're comfortable with using the extended syntax in Google to get AND/OR, wildcards, etc., then cool. But you _can_ do that stuff here already.

I dunno that using Google to parse YT is the answer - it may be, but I think that the additional power will just cause more issues.

Feb 27, 2007 | 01:24 PM

#33

Corey

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http://www.google.com/search?as_site...&as_q=sea+foam

Pretty cool.

Feb 27, 2007 | 01:28 PM

#34

mt_goat

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Originally Posted by HaveBlue

What is Sea Foam?

It's color code 49023

Feb 27, 2007 | 02:11 PM

#35

seanz0rz

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andrew, you are awesome!!! if you made a plugin, id give you my 6th born (already gave away the first 5)

Feb 27, 2007 | 02:37 PM

#36

midiwall

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Quote:

Originally Posted by seanz0rz

andrew, you are awesome!!! if you made a plugin, id give you my 6th born (already gave away the first 5)

Plugin? All Corey has to do is to add a form tag into the header. See my example above.

Feb 27, 2007 | 03:43 PM

#37

wjwerdna

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yeah, that would be very handy too mark, and I never new it was that easy, the plugin would go directly in firefox though, so you wouldnt even have to have a yotatech page open to get to it

Feb 27, 2007 | 04:17 PM

#38

midiwall

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wjwerdna

yeah, that would be very handy too mark, and I never new it was that easy, the plugin would go directly in firefox though, so you wouldnt even have to have a yotatech page open to get to it

Oh.. I'm sorry - you're talking about making a Search Engine.

I totally missed that.

I'm about done with one. Do you want me to keep going?