i'd like to cast my vote for a new section, newbie section or newbie tech section, similar to the one on ttora.

http://www.tacomaterritory.com/forum...18&postcount=1

 

sounds reasonable... but how many new people will know to post there? im still learning where to post stuff and ive been here over a month ... just my .02

 

I think we should just emphasize the search button more!!

 

i think if we had this, instead of telling them to SEARCH all the time, we could tell them to post in the newbie tech section. then non-newbies who want to answer will. and any posts there wont get flamed and bombarded with SEARCH commands.

 

He'll learn...

I'd have to agree with Localmotion. Less sections = better forum. Plus, did I say that they will learn?

My .02!

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But then they'll already have posted in the wrong section. Now it's twice the bandwidth and server space? Also, for the newbie section to be effective people would have to know about it when they got here and not many forums have it for people to learn from.

 

Well i think that if we have a nooby section, there will be tons and tons of the same questions being asked. I cant say im not guilty of this though, sometimes people want to have assurance and ask again (like myself). Maybe we should have a section with a wealth of information for newbies.

IE: gather up all of the threads that a typical newbie would be interested in, and have them all in the same place.

This would be a lot of work for the mods though, I already appreciate all that they do, no sense in pushing our luck...LOL

Id have to agree with Mark too. Less sections = more organization, less bandwith, and less patroling.

 

The TECH section has a lot of that. What else do noobies want? Where to get a TB spacer from?

 

LMAO....well maybe the which lift to get...etc. And all the threads linked up, so maybe they dont really have to use the forbidden search function! I dunno man, i think YT is helpful/efficient enough!

 

i can see where the extra bandwidth and extra mod intervention would be a problem.

about the tech section, its already there for everyone, people just dont search. i think if they entered a noob section there might be a deckplate thread near the top, and they'd post there instead of making more threads. maybe thats just wishful thinking though. silver_truck made a GREAT Toyota FAQ a while back which is stickied, and it has everything from deckplate to lifts and wheel sizing, but people just dont look.

 

I wish we could have something like this...ready? OK...

Basically, a function where every thread could have a "vote delete" thing. Any member who is allowed by admins (a bunch of dailies who we can trust) could vote on a thread to delete it with a reason.

Then once the thread hits 5 or 10 votes per say (remember...only trusty members can vote) then the thread would be deleted and the member would be sent a PM with the reasons of all the "voters" of why it was deleted and a link to a thread with a lot of newbie info (like the one garret mentioned).

Sadly, this would require quite a bit of coding and I doubt is a possiblity at all. But if it could be made, it would help a lot of forums!

Dreams...

 

the only problem i see with that is that.... it would be too fun that might encourage deletion wars

 

The mods will beat us up if we do that. Those big burly mods...

 

and the fact that people might get offended. Afterall, this is a family oriented board.

 

Compared to other forums, newbies don't really get "flamed" here. Yes, we tell them to use the search feature, but for the most part people say it very nicely ... the newbie section wouldn't solve any problems because they would still be asking the same questions over and over again and we would inevitably have to say "to find more info, try using the search feature" because no one can type up a detailed response to the same question every day. Even if you answer a newbie question, they would still benefit from doing a search to find even more info on it.

Sometimes I say "do a search" because I'll remember a specific thread or post that had a detailed answer but don't have the time to search for that particular thread myself.

Anyway, I dunno, I don't mind answering newbie questions if I know the answer, but I think in general they SHOULD be encouraged to use the search button because there is almost always a variety of opinions on the matter at hand anyway.

 

hehe, I have tried doing that before (posting a reply with 20+ relevant threads on the topic) and the people still don't want to read it or go through the threads - they want the answer NEW for THEM, without having to actually look through things themselves.

The problem with that is that people would see a thread from someone they dislike and vote to delete it out of spite. I think the mods do a fine job of deleting inappropriate threads or closing ones that should be closed. Otherwise, all you have to do is not read the thread if you don't like it.

 

I think it has to do with people feelin assured when they ask the question and get an answer themself...that way there is no static in what they are looking for. Cant blame them though, they just want to be 100000% sure, i do the same thing.

 

I do that too, but there is a difference between doing that after you've read up on things and just flat out refusing to read up on it because they're lazy.

There was this one guy who posted the same question by making 5 new threads, and it was a simple question like "can you lift a 4th gen?" ... I posted with links to every thread I could find regarding 4th gen. lifts and he continued to post new threads asking the same question. Then Lance answered him, and the guy STILL ignored the answer and kept asking the same questions!

 

thats just pure ignorance. People are going to start the same threads over and over...its a fact! If the info is given to them through a series of links, they probably become hesistant b/c they arent getting answered flat out. If people ask the same question over and over w/o reading or searching, they should be

 

Yes, but we don't get that many newbies who post 5 threads in the same hour asking the exact same question to which they've already received the answer!

 

this is how i see it: the newbie section would be a section where we are encouraged to NOT tell people to search. instead, reply and help the 'noob', or dont post in there and no harm done. it keeps the threads clean of people telling eachother to search. i'm just thinking that if theres a section specifically for this kind of stuff (deckplate, ISR, rear diff breather, tire size with XX amount of lift) searching would bring more definite answers. if you serach for this stuff in the general tech area, it might take longer to find a definite answer. by now there are so many variations of mods that it can be overwhelming to search the general tech section, ESPECIALLY for people that just joined. i dont know. it just seems to work on ttora, thats all.