Would you install a "used" roll cage?
#1
Would you install a "used" roll cage?
So i just purchased this roll cage for what i think was just 2 good 2 pass up the tubes are 1 1/2 this is one of those sleeve type cages. I want ppls feedback and personal opinions in regards 2 these types of cages. I want 2 know if you guys think if i should install this in my daily driven 88 4runner or just trade sell scrap or
Last edited by waskillywabbit; Jul 12, 2011 at 04:59 AM. Reason: Please use non ambiguous titles in the future. Thanks.
#3
Is it HREW (look for a seam) or DOM?
Personally I would put in the truck and see how it fits.
Hard to tell but it kind of looks like an old all pro cage (Am on my phone so it only enlarges so much)
It it fits good and is good material tie it into the rear factory cage.
Personally I would put in the truck and see how it fits.
Hard to tell but it kind of looks like an old all pro cage (Am on my phone so it only enlarges so much)
It it fits good and is good material tie it into the rear factory cage.
#4
#5
Is it HREW (look for a seam) or DOM?
Personally I would put in the truck and see how it fits.
Hard to tell but it kind of looks like an old all pro cage (Am on my phone so it only enlarges so much)
It it fits good and is good material tie it into the rear factory cage.
Personally I would put in the truck and see how it fits.
Hard to tell but it kind of looks like an old all pro cage (Am on my phone so it only enlarges so much)
It it fits good and is good material tie it into the rear factory cage.
#6
I've only heard good things about the All-pro kits, too bad they aren't selling them any more. Keep in mind though that they were "weld it yourself kits". If you are not a welder, I would have someone that is inspect those welds to make sure they are solid. Nice find man!
#7
I've only heard good things about the All-pro kits, too bad they aren't selling them any more. Keep in mind though that they were "weld it yourself kits". If you are not a welder, I would have someone that is inspect those welds to make sure they are solid. Nice find man!
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#8
Personally, I'm too big for a roll cage in a Toyota. 6'2" isn't that tall but with extra tubing in the cab it was too much for my noggin without a helmet. I took it out after one ride.
Biggest thing is getting it secured properly.
:wabbit2:
Biggest thing is getting it secured properly.
:wabbit2:
#9
Did Wabbit say his head was too big to use a roll cage? 
Anyway, Personally I would use a used roll cage, seen it done many times not in trail trucks but with both SCCA cars and drag cars. Unless the P.O. abused the hell outta the truck and rolled it a few times, there shouldn't be any issues.
Not sure if I would trust an HREW cage though.

Anyway, Personally I would use a used roll cage, seen it done many times not in trail trucks but with both SCCA cars and drag cars. Unless the P.O. abused the hell outta the truck and rolled it a few times, there shouldn't be any issues.
Not sure if I would trust an HREW cage though.
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#14
i had a real tuff time tryin 2 mock up the rear hoop. It didnt really wanna squeeze into place. By this time my arrogant bastard ale had already been consumed along with a monster so i stopped lol Ill let the real installer worry about the cage now
#15
Yea, not nearly enough triangulation in there to be any good. It might prevent a little cab deformation in a light rollover, but it's still deformed enough that you're not ever getting a windshield in there again. and a sore spot on your head from bouncing it off that big ol' pipe next to your head. so what's the point?
IMO, In order to actually make the cab safer in a serious rollover than it already is, you need a complete, tied into the frame, roll cage. Complete with door bars, non-adjustable seats and 6-point harnesses. But at that point, you have completely lost all comfort and convenience.
something more like this (cage we're building for the new Ziptie Rally #171):

So no, I would not install that cage.....but I don't think that's quite what your were asking
IMO, In order to actually make the cab safer in a serious rollover than it already is, you need a complete, tied into the frame, roll cage. Complete with door bars, non-adjustable seats and 6-point harnesses. But at that point, you have completely lost all comfort and convenience.
something more like this (cage we're building for the new Ziptie Rally #171):

So no, I would not install that cage.....but I don't think that's quite what your were asking
Last edited by Numbchux; Jul 16, 2011 at 07:07 PM.
#16
Count me out then... sometimes being 6'7 has its drawbacks
#17
Yea, not nearly enough triangulation in there to be any good. It might prevent a little cab deformation in a light rollover, but it's still deformed enough that you're not ever getting a windshield in there again. and a sore spot on your head from bouncing it off that big ol' pipe next to your head. so what's the point?
IMO, In order to actually make the cab safer in a serious rollover than it already is, you need a complete, tied into the frame, roll cage. Complete with door bars, non-adjustable seats and 6-point harnesses. But at that point, you have completely lost all comfort and convenience.
something more like this (cage we're building for the new Ziptie Rally #171):

So no, I would not install that cage.....but I don't think that's quite what your were asking
IMO, In order to actually make the cab safer in a serious rollover than it already is, you need a complete, tied into the frame, roll cage. Complete with door bars, non-adjustable seats and 6-point harnesses. But at that point, you have completely lost all comfort and convenience.
something more like this (cage we're building for the new Ziptie Rally #171):

So no, I would not install that cage.....but I don't think that's quite what your were asking

Ooooooo thats a nice cage man
The point is 2 have something other than the window pillars protecting me in case of a roll over... As far as cab deformation goes well thats what junk yards are for
Nothings better than finding a donor for my truck
#18
I'm in the process of putting in pretty much the same cage. I would put in the gussets that you posted up before. Mine was in a 3rd gen previously and ended up being a total pia to put in. Looks like that shouldn't be too big of a problem for you though.
I don't know what kind of wheeling you do/ plan on doing, but imo that cage should be sufficient. As stated before triangulation is important, but it would be very inconvenient for your application.
Take a look at this link, very similar cage.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=935863
I don't know what kind of wheeling you do/ plan on doing, but imo that cage should be sufficient. As stated before triangulation is important, but it would be very inconvenient for your application.
Take a look at this link, very similar cage.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=935863
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